Mass mail sending

[Havokmon]

Originally Posted by Jacinto

You beat me to it -- exactly what I was going to say.

It seems that JamesHeald and Havokmon are splitting hairs about the definition of Spam because they want to carve a subjective definition that fits their business model.

Although, they may not consider unsolicited messages that they send either for themselves or their customers Spam, objectively it is.

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Jacinto

I just want everyone to agree on an accurate definition, though I am trying to point out different perspectives in order to reach that goal.

Unfortunately 'Spam' is too often defined as "I don't want this". I have one guy who complained about spam, so after doing some research I told him we could easily just dump those (they were legitimate subscriptions) and he said, "Well, no. I'm registered with that group so I may want to look at them at some point". Well, then it's not Spam.

[ReuvenNY]

Originally Posted by Havokmon

Magazines you've ordered, you consider Spam. Therefore mailing lists you are a member of, you consider Spam
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Obviously, magazines I ordered are not what I meant or was referring to. Everyone understands it... no need to attempt to ridicule it.
I was referring to trade magazines, unsolicited, unrequested and unwanted. Some of those Mailing Lists purchasers use those magazines as a form of soliciting business. For me they are spam.

The linguistic definitions of words we use here do not really matter. It's the actions of those senders what we discuss here that are in question.
It is also true that some people do not like certain emails they subscribed to, and are erroneously reporting them as spam. That's unfortunate.

[Jacinto]

Originally Posted by Havokmon

I just want everyone to agree on an accurate definition, though I am trying to point out different perspectives in order to reach that goal.

As long as you deem certain unsolicited commercial mail as not-Spam (even in good faith), I do not believe we can arrive at a common definition of Spam.

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Jacinto

[Havokmon]

Originally Posted by Jacinto

As long as you deem certain unsolicited commercial mail as not-Spam (even in good faith), I do not believe we can arrive at a common definition of Spam.

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Jacinto

I can't stretch the definition of not-Spam to only commercial email that's double opt-in.
In this day and age, if you give your email to any commercial entity, you're agreeing to receive email from them (and possibly partners). The 'partners' is definitely a rub for me, especially if it's buried in some disclaimer somewhere. You don't know if there's a true 'partnership', or just a sale of addresses.

[William9]

The original poster, juvefarmer, has not come back. Adding further to my suspicions regarding the type of email he wants to send.

[juvefarmer]

Well I am back. This is not spam. I have been in the poker affiliate business for more then 10 years and I have many contacts.

We have now started a new pokersite and I need to send out to all of my old players.