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Guide to email headers? How easily can these be forged?
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I was contacted be someone who got my name from eBay and wanted to sell me a product. When I asked for confirmation of his identity, he said that he would get eBay to send me an email confirming who he was. I suspected that the email I received was forged because there were grammar errors in the text. I emailed eBay and they have confirmed that the email did not originate from them after looking at the headers. Questions:
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Re: Guide to email headers? How easily can these be forged?
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http://www.stopspam.org/email/headers/headers.html |
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The From & Reply-to addresses can be forged really easily. They are whatever you set up in your e-mail client account/persona.
I believe that the "X-Mail-from" header is a result of the particular client or method used to send the e-mail. Eudora sends an "X-Sender" header that is a combination of the "Login Name" and Incoming Mail "Server". |
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Should I mention that the "Received:" headers are normally read from the bottom up.
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When I "ping -a 80.96.131.25" I get "tcmy.o.catv.onix.ro [80.96.131.25]", which actually matches the url in the header. Looks like Romania. If you want to pursue this you could try forwarding your e-mail to "abuse@onix.ro". I don't know if that is a valid address, but it's a place to start. |
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Also, you might want to edit your post to disguise your e-mail address as one way that spammers get hold of it is by trawling webpages like this one.
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Most of your questions are covered usf's link, but:
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Sender/x-sender is supposed to represent the sending account,but its largely obsolete. Return-path is added at the receiving end, from the SMTP "mail from", it is the address that delivery failures should go to. X-Mail-from is Fastmail's own header that contains the SMTP "mail from". I've never seen the point of it since it duplicates return-path. I guess there may be cases where multiple return-paths are added and it might be useful for filtering. |
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Thank you for all of the help everyone, especially DrStrabismus. I have a better idea of what to look for when determining the authenticity of a sender now.
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The "mail from" is usually left unchanged when an email is redirected in real-time and altered when it's redirected after delivery. In the latter case there will be resent headers, and most servers don't bother to remove older return-path headers anyway.
In practice I've not really found a use for x-mail-from. |
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http://network.csudh.edu/spam.html Regards, ha.h.ngu |
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Wow, that's reviving an old thread.
![]() I believe that the intent of my post was that they could alert the provider about a customer running a scam. |
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the "From:" header represents "Authors or persons taking responsibility for the message. " The "Sender:" header represents "The person or agent submitting the message to the network...." For example: If you use your Gmail account to send an email from your own domain, Google will use you@yourdomain.com as the From header and yourgmail@gmail.com as the Sender header. Too hard for me. In plain English, these are non-official headers, not defined by any official Internet standard. For example, I have seen several cPanel-based email systems which add a whole bunch of X- headers to outgoing mail for abuse tracking and control. The general idea already appears several times in an early Internet [pre-]standard, http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1521.txt . The punchline is: "'X-' fields may be created for experimental or private purposes, with the recognition that the information they contain may be lost at some gateways." To understand this intuitively, look at their example starting with the words X-Weird-Header-1: Foo Thanks. D. Last edited by DavidJ : 30 Aug 2011 at 02:59 AM. Reason: added 3 words for clarity |
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I am new to this site. But I should say that this is a very useful and informative page. I was searching for some information on “mail from” option and was glad to find a very good explanation of it.
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The only thing you can really trust is the immediate IP address your server or your provider's server accepted the connection from.
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