New message search in Beta

Geir · 16 Nov 2010, 12:42 PM

We’re happy to announce that the long-awaited full message search function is now available in closed Beta test, so let us know if you’d like to try searching ALL your Runbox email and we’ll enable it for you!

- Geir

tomhab · 16 Nov 2010, 07:00 PM

Hmmm now, I think I've already been activated (thanks).

One minor bug:

If I search for a subject string surrounded by quotes (so I get the exact phrase), it works, but the search box then contains 'subject: (', rather than 'subject("Search Phrase")' as I would have expected.

laverton · 19 Nov 2010, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomhab

Hmmm now, I think I've already been activated (thanks).

One minor bug:

If I search for a subject string surrounded by quotes (so I get the exact phrase), it works, but the search box then contains 'subject: (', rather than 'subject("Search Phrase")' as I would have expected.

Ah yes, caused by a typical programming mistake

It should be fixed now, please give it a go!

gareth · 25 Nov 2010, 07:24 AM

Yes please

kservik · 25 Nov 2010, 08:22 PM

Could you put the same request here: http://blog.runbox.com/2010/11/new-m...earch-in-beta/

Then I will have your email address (it will not be visible).

Kim

Berenburger · 26 Nov 2010, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kservik

Could you put the same request here: http://blog.runbox.com/2010/11/new-m...earch-in-beta/

Just noticed the refreshed homepage (not visited since a longtime). Nice!

Geir · 27 Nov 2010, 08:01 AM

Thanks -- we're very glad to hear that!

- Geir

tomhab · 13 Dec 2010, 11:05 PM

Generally great apart from it has a limit of 100 items?

Is there a technical reason for that? It's frustrating as it's not even the most recent 100 items (which would be most useful). I'm guessing it's there to stop a performance hit, but does that mean that it wouldn't be such a great utility if I'm expecting 1000 items, but trying to find the one I received in July 2008...?

kservik · 14 Dec 2010, 07:18 AM

First, you should see the latest results. We went from relevancy to time ranking.

The reason we only offer that few results right now is that we want to monitor load and maybe increase it over time.

To solve this issue, we could apply a timeframe to advanced search.

Kim

laverton · 14 Dec 2010, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomhab

Generally great apart from it has a limit of 100 items?

Is there a technical reason for that? It's frustrating as it's not even the most recent 100 items (which would be most useful). I'm guessing it's there to stop a performance hit, but does that mean that it wouldn't be such a great utility if I'm expecting 1000 items, but trying to find the one I received in July 2008...?

Yes, we don't make life difficult for our customers on purpose

In short it's because searching goes through two steps. First the index is searched which returns a set of message IDs. Then these messages are fetched from the database. The problem was that the message IDs returned from the index weren't sorted properly. This is fixed now, but all indexes must be rebuilt. This shouldn't take too long, so please test later!

We'll still have to live with some limitation to the number of messages fetched from the index, but we'll consider increasing it a bit.

laverton · 14 Dec 2010, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kservik

First, you should see the latest results. We went from relevancy to time ranking.
Kim

Atleast we thought we did... I had to make some changes to indexing to make date sorting work properly. See my post above.

tomhab · 14 Dec 2010, 06:52 PM

OK that's better (ie most recent items are returned now).

As for the 100 limit... Firstly, can it say somewhere that it's limited to 100? So instead of "100 items found in /", it'll say "Most recent 100 items found in /", or if it's not hard (although not a priority): "Most recent 100 of 1000 items found in /" (where 1000 is the total that were found to match the given criteria.

Also, it really would be nice to be able to get all results returned somehow. Perhaps default is 100, but you can set a parameter that lets you search them all etc

Geir · 20 Dec 2010, 11:56 PM

You can now enable the new search function by using this link:

http://beta.runbox.com/mail?enable_new_search=1

If you happen to have a lot of messages in your account that you do not need indexed (such as spam), we recommend that you delete them first to speed up the initial indexing.

Any feedback is welcome!

- Geir

16 Nov 2010, 12:42 PM	#1
Geir The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,938 Representative of: Runbox.com	New message search in Beta We’re happy to announce that the long-awaited full message search function is now available in closed Beta test, so let us know if you’d like to try searching ALL your Runbox email and we’ll enable it for you! - Geir

20 Dec 2010, 11:56 PM	#13
Geir The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,938 Representative of: Runbox.com	Update You can now enable the new search function by using this link: http://beta.runbox.com/mail?enable_new_search=1 If you happen to have a lot of messages in your account that you do not need indexed (such as spam), we recommend that you delete them first to speed up the initial indexing. Any feedback is welcome! - Geir

16 Nov 2010, 07:00 PM	#2
tomhab Essential Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 236	Hmmm now, I think I've already been activated (thanks). One minor bug: If I search for a subject string surrounded by quotes (so I get the exact phrase), it works, but the search box then contains 'subject: (', rather than 'subject("Search Phrase")' as I would have expected.

25 Nov 2010, 07:24 AM	#4
gareth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: UK Posts: 190	Yes please

25 Nov 2010, 08:22 PM	#5
kservik Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 555 Representative of: Runbox.com	Could you put the same request here: http://blog.runbox.com/2010/11/new-m...earch-in-beta/ Then I will have your email address (it will not be visible). Kim

27 Nov 2010, 08:01 AM	#7
Geir The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,938 Representative of: Runbox.com	Thanks -- we're very glad to hear that! - Geir

13 Dec 2010, 11:05 PM	#8
tomhab Essential Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 236	Generally great apart from it has a limit of 100 items? Is there a technical reason for that? It's frustrating as it's not even the most recent 100 items (which would be most useful). I'm guessing it's there to stop a performance hit, but does that mean that it wouldn't be such a great utility if I'm expecting 1000 items, but trying to find the one I received in July 2008...?

14 Dec 2010, 07:18 AM	#9
kservik Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 555 Representative of: Runbox.com	First, you should see the latest results. We went from relevancy to time ranking. The reason we only offer that few results right now is that we want to monitor load and maybe increase it over time. To solve this issue, we could apply a timeframe to advanced search. Kim

14 Dec 2010, 06:52 PM	#12
tomhab Essential Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 236	OK that's better (ie most recent items are returned now). As for the 100 limit... Firstly, can it say somewhere that it's limited to 100? So instead of "100 items found in /", it'll say "Most recent 100 items found in /", or if it's not hard (although not a priority): "Most recent 100 of 1000 items found in /" (where 1000 is the total that were found to match the given criteria. Also, it really would be nice to be able to get all results returned somehow. Perhaps default is 100, but you can set a parameter that lets you search them all etc