Outlook.com - Page 2

FredOnline · 20 Apr 2013, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Berenburger

I heard rumors that 2FA is coming.

Just checked my outlook.com e-mail account, and the 2FA option is now available.

I've set it up - just waiting now to see how it compares to Gmail 2FA.

Berenburger · 20 Apr 2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FredOnline

I've set it up - just waiting now to see how it compares to Gmail 2FA.

Keep us informed, please.

mike1977 · 20 Apr 2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Berenburger

Well, well. 2FA and sign as an alias. Well done, Microsoft.

NOT well done with being able to sign in with aliases.

It's a step back in security!!!

David · 20 Apr 2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1977

NOT well done with being able to sign in with aliases.

It's a step back in security!!!

You don't have to use it if you don't want to.

just1acc · 20 Apr 2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by David

You don't have to use it if you don't want to.

An account hijacker can login through your alias too, if he/she got required information. But if your login id is something different than public mail id, more peace of mind, isn't it?

David · 20 Apr 2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by just1acc

An account hijacker can login through your alias to, if he/she got required information. But if your login id is something different than public mail id, more peace of mind, isn't it?

Okay, I guess if there is no way to disable this feature - totally.

I use Outlook myself but am currently forwarding my mail to Runbox.

FredOnline · 21 Apr 2013, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by B4its2L8

if users are being forced to accept the 'sign-in as alias' feature, I'm afraid I'm in agreement with those who dislike that step backwards in security.

If you're talking about alias sign-in by itself, yes I can see your point.

But does not the implementation of 2FA compensate?

B4its2L8 · 21 Apr 2013, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FredOnline

If you're talking about alias sign-in by itself, yes I can see your point.

But does not the implementation of 2FA compensate?

Yes, indeed, it does. Just like it does with regular Gmail accounts (as opposed to Apps accounts) which have no aliases at all. But it was nice (while it lasted) to have the little bit of extra security provided by having the Outlook account/login username secret.

mike1977 · 21 Apr 2013, 01:28 PM

Yeah, but having both 2FA and where you could have a reserved email address for logins only would make it even more secure.

just1acc · 21 Apr 2013, 02:30 PM

One thing I should add. I think, microsoft knows that sign in with alias is a security backstep but they had no other option. Their previous approach of change/convert account to outlook.com one made some account non-working, specially msn ids converted to outlook.com.

And some more conflicts with windows phone etc., I can't remember all those, which compelled them to simplify the login and discard a good security practice.

FredOnline · 21 Apr 2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FredOnline

Just checked my outlook.com e-mail account, and the 2FA option is now available.

I've set it up - just waiting now to see how it compares to Gmail 2FA.

Just setting up the 2FA on another outlook.com e-mail account this morning - for whatever reason, this took a lot longer than previously.

I started with sending the code by text to a cell phone - but after more than 5 minutes of waiting without response*, I changed this to sending the code to a back-up e-mail address - the code came through within a few seconds.

Finally, to complete the 2FA, they again wanted another code - and this time only to the cell phone.

Now, there are two options on how to receive the code by cellphone - text or phone call.

As the text option did not seem to work first time, I opted for the code by phone call - this came through in a matter of seconds.

So now this other account is also protected.

Update*: The code by text eventually arrived to the cell phone - about an hour later.

guillaume · 25 Apr 2013, 11:54 PM

I have enabled the 2FA on outlook.com as well and the Authenticator app works great.

The service is now way better than Gmail which becomes more bloated and slower everyday. They even introduced a good functional calendar not too long ago

I don't regret my switch last july

i'm now waiting for Skype to show up

drew · 26 Apr 2013, 06:11 PM

Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo are the most popular???
of the free email services.

Is maybe gmail best at pulling outlook and yahoo
compared to outlook webmail not pulling gmail or yahoo?

I have yahoo now and maybe want to change to either
outlook or gmail but feel unsure of how they do the pulling?

Just Bill · 27 Apr 2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by drew

Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo are the most popular???
of the free email services.

Is maybe gmail best at pulling outlook and yahoo
compared to outlook webmail not pulling gmail or yahoo?

I have yahoo now and maybe want to change to either
outlook or gmail but feel unsure of how they do the pulling?

I think you'll find Outlook to suit your needs. It's all pretty self explanatory once your start poking around in the settings.

webecedarian · 28 Apr 2013, 04:40 AM

If you mean the Outlook that has replaced Hotmail, I loathe it, but I can't quite figure out why. It's has a fine blue color, and a fine uncluttered look. But I still hate it. Many of the various clicking points have disappeared - the worst omission being the "Log out." You can no longer easily click to check the font. When I try to delete messages, it keeps giving me a pop-up encouraging me to archive (which I find rather sinister). I can't even find the calendar, if it still exists. Even silly things like the emoticons are worse.

21 Apr 2013, 01:28 PM	#24
mike1977 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Auburn Posts: 153	Yeah, but having both 2FA and where you could have a reserved email address for logins only would make it even more secure.

21 Apr 2013, 02:30 PM	#25
just1acc Essential Contributor Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 453	One thing I should add. I think, microsoft knows that sign in with alias is a security backstep but they had no other option. Their previous approach of change/convert account to outlook.com one made some account non-working, specially msn ids converted to outlook.com. And some more conflicts with windows phone etc., I can't remember all those, which compelled them to simplify the login and discard a good security practice.

25 Apr 2013, 11:54 PM	#27
guillaume Essential Contributor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Paris, FRANCE Posts: 486	I have enabled the 2FA on outlook.com as well and the Authenticator app works great. The service is now way better than Gmail which becomes more bloated and slower everyday. They even introduced a good functional calendar not too long ago I don't regret my switch last july i'm now waiting for Skype to show up

26 Apr 2013, 06:11 PM	#28
drew The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,626	Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo are the most popular??? of the free email services. Is maybe gmail best at pulling outlook and yahoo compared to outlook webmail not pulling gmail or yahoo? I have yahoo now and maybe want to change to either outlook or gmail but feel unsure of how they do the pulling?

28 Apr 2013, 04:40 AM	#30
webecedarian Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 554	If you mean the Outlook that has replaced Hotmail, I loathe it, but I can't quite figure out why. It's has a fine blue color, and a fine uncluttered look. But I still hate it. Many of the various clicking points have disappeared - the worst omission being the "Log out." You can no longer easily click to check the font. When I try to delete messages, it keeps giving me a pop-up encouraging me to archive (which I find rather sinister). I can't even find the calendar, if it still exists. Even silly things like the emoticons are worse.