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Old 21 Nov 2010, 10:56 PM   #1
ST123
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Best spam control?

Which provider has the best spam control

(not including gmail).

Previously cotse has been good for me but something has gone wrong recently
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 01:17 AM   #2
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apptix, they use messagelabs - but everything else about them is rubbish.

wonder if there is any messagelabs re-seller out there for small businesses / individuals?
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 02:23 AM   #3
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also any use MX Logic?
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 02:52 AM   #4
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I use MX Logic (owned by McAfee, being acquired by Intel) as an optional service for my LuxSci account. It does a great job. Not perfect (I haven't found one that is), but excellent and highly configurable. Anything that the system thinks is spam is quarantined, kept out of your account, but shown to you for verification if you wish. By the way, I continue to be impressed by Gmail's spam filter, but you said not Gmail.
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 02:58 AM   #5
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What is the Fastmail spam control like?

I have about 20 + domains that I want to use on one account.
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 05:12 AM   #6
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Which provider has the best spam control

(not including gmail).
No need to exclude Gmail since it is not even close to having "best spam control". It provides absolutely no control over spam filtering (except for reading your spam box to find all those false positives) and I see quite a lot of false positives.
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 05:17 AM   #7
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What is the Fastmail spam control like?

I have about 20 + domains that I want to use on one account.
I receive almost no spam on addresses andled by FastMail (as opposed to addresses forwarded to FastMail. This includes several aliases I deliberately subscribed to some spam lists (never got any single piece of spam on these aliases). And FastMail provides almost infinite control of spam settings.
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 07:14 AM   #8
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My (web) hosting provider uses Spam Experts. Not bad either.
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 01:54 PM   #9
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Fastmail.fm has good spam filtering, they have spam learning curve too.
(it is really good when you have your own learned spam filter system)
(using from more than 3 years, more than 25 domains are hosted with them)

Pobox.com, strong spam filtering system.
(using from last more than 5 years)
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Old 22 Nov 2010, 10:39 PM   #10
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No need to exclude Gmail since it is not even close to having "best spam control". It provides absolutely no control over spam filtering (except for reading your spam box to find all those false positives) and I see quite a lot of false positives.
There's currently some (British?) idiot on GMail who signed up to HMV's pureHMV reward card, and who has either forgotten this fact (and is not cognisant of the fact that a major, reputable company like HMV is not likely to sell subscribers' addresses, and if they do, it's probably already too late) or simply can't be bothered to unsubscribe properly -- so they just report all such messages as spam! Thank goodness I check my spam folder (at least once daily) for false positives, and that GMail has a "Not Spam" button; I've so far had to rescue two pureHMV messages...
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Old 23 Nov 2010, 07:30 AM   #11
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Which provider has the best spam control

(not including gmail).

Previously cotse has been good for me but something has gone wrong recently
Usually the different mail services dont run their own spam filters but rather have external filters implemented. There are some popular antispam services on the net which uses different techniques to stop and identify spam.
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Old 23 Nov 2010, 07:40 AM   #12
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Usually the different mail services dont run their own spam filters but rather have external filters implemented. There are some popular antispam services on the net which uses different techniques to stop and identify spam.
Which are? Do you have any links / recommendations?
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Old 24 Nov 2010, 02:17 AM   #13
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No need to exclude Gmail since it is not even close to having "best spam control". It provides absolutely no control over spam filtering (except for reading your spam box to find all those false positives) and I see quite a lot of false positives.
You can setup fairly complex whitelisting filters using advanced search.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...en&answer=7190
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Old 24 Nov 2010, 02:26 AM   #14
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Usually the different mail services dont run their own spam filters but rather have external filters implemented. There are some popular antispam services on the net which uses different techniques to stop and identify spam.
I think most email service providers run their own filters. Fastmail, Tuffmail, Runbox, pobox gmail do
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Old 24 Nov 2010, 04:45 AM   #15
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Even the awful Craptaris webmail client had filters.
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