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Old 10 Nov 2024, 11:25 PM   #31
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But no one else has this problem
No one else is reporting here that they are experiencing the problem. Personally, I do not request notifications for posts on this forum, so I would obviously not experience it. I think the number of people using the forum is pretty low now, and most people seeing the apparent duplicates will probably just ignore the issue.
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Old 11 Nov 2024, 11:52 AM   #32
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Only someone subscribed to the thread (usually because they posted in that thread) would receive a notification, and only if they specified to receive immediate notifications would they likely notice that an edit was made to a very recent post.

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Old 11 Nov 2024, 10:39 PM   #33
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My guess this is because I edited my original EMD post after a couple of minutes.
Wow.

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I didn?t think it would send out such updates
You, me and Moderator CyberSmurf too

Mystery solved. Leaving only the mystery of why the second update says "n5bb has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to ..." - not "just edited". A fault.

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Old 12 Nov 2024, 06:27 AM   #34
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I have instant notifications set for new posts and I don't get duplicate notifications. I get a notification when a new message is posted to a thread I'm subscribed to, and then no more notifications until I access that thread, not to edits of that message nor to newer messages on the thread.
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Old 12 Nov 2024, 12:35 PM   #35
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... Mystery solved. Leaving only the mystery of why the second update says "n5bb has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to ..." - not "just edited". A fault.
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I have instant notifications set for new posts and I don't get duplicate notifications. I get a notification when a new message is posted to a thread I'm subscribed to, and then no more notifications until I access that thread, not to edits of that message nor to newer messages on the thread.
Unless a moderator has server logs which show that the message (with the same content) was sent twice, I don't see that the mystery is solved. I would carefully compare the following headers on the two messages which have identical body content:
  • Message-ID - if the EMD server is sending the message twice, it should change the Message-ID on the second message.
  • Date (exact time)
  • The first Received header above (after) the Date header.
If the Message-ID and exact time in the Date headers on the two messages are identical, then it would appear that the EMD server only sent one notification message and the duplication occurred external to the EMD sending server. If so, are the first Received headers identical, with the same time and server name?

If the Message-ID or exact time in the Date headers on the two messages differ, then it would appear that the EMD server sent two messages.

That's how I see the situation.

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Old 12 Nov 2024, 02:30 PM   #36
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I have instant notifications set for new posts and I don't get duplicate notifications. I get a notification when a new message is posted to a thread I'm subscribed to, and then no more notifications until I access that thread, not to edits of that message nor to newer messages on the thread.
Ya thats how it should be. Something is fouled up which is why I suggested to Chris to take it out and then place it back in his list again and see if its corrected
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Old 12 Nov 2024, 07:02 PM   #37
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But no one else has this problem
That is said of many problems I spot.

What's is true is that few users spot most software problems, having become inured.
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Old 12 Nov 2024, 07:04 PM   #38
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No one else is reporting here that they are experiencing the problem.
And few are reporting they don't.
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Old 12 Nov 2024, 07:08 PM   #39
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Would posting the full messages with recipient address redacted be safe?

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Old 12 Nov 2024, 11:32 PM   #40
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Would posting the full messages with recipient address redacted be safe?
I don't see how posting the messages (especially headers) can be unsafe (after replacing all private email addresses, of course).
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Old 13 Nov 2024, 01:22 AM   #41
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Ya I dont see an issue Chris
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Old 13 Nov 2024, 09:34 AM   #42
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One reason people aren't seeing both is Fastmail "[x] Discard duplicate messages (based on Message-ID) on delivery" - the default, if I recall correctly. I am seeing them and I have [ ].
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Old 13 Nov 2024, 09:41 AM   #43
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Thanks hasado and Bamb0. Here they are, redacted:

https://pastebin.com/d0AWy6aP
https://pastebin.com/ZQk9nuS3


(Too big for this forum.)
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Old 13 Nov 2024, 01:14 PM   #44
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There may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again.
Yup thats how its supposed to be for all........
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Old 14 Nov 2024, 09:03 PM   #45
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Thanks hasado and Bamb0. Here they are, redacted:

https://pastebin.com/d0AWy6aP
https://pastebin.com/ZQk9nuS3


(Too big for this forum.)
That's very strange. I get very similar headers (practically the same path), but only one copy. You got two different notifications for the same new post, generated within about a minute, with two different message-id's.
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