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Old 7 Sep 2021, 12:03 AM   #46
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Is this article implying that ProtonMail can only hand over encrypted data which ProtonMail themselves are unable to decrypt ?
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Old 7 Sep 2021, 01:11 AM   #47
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Is this article implying that ProtonMail can only hand over encrypted data which ProtonMail themselves are unable to decrypt ?

I doubt it. I would figure they must hand over everything they have access to, related to a specific IP/user/account/etc.


That article hints that something particularly unusual about that request differentiates it from other requests, and this request couldn't be appealed. I wonder what legal situation/tactic was afoot.
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Old 7 Sep 2021, 01:37 AM   #48
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I doubt it. I would figure they must hand over everything they have access to, related to a specific IP/user/account/etc.


That article hints that something particularly unusual about that request differentiates it from other requests, and this request couldn't be appealed. I wonder what legal situation/tactic was afoot.
I doubt most of those could be appealed in any way shape or form. Due to the time sensitive nature of collecting data to catch a criminal, I doubt there's much room for anything.

When they say they "fight it" I'd say, they're most likely filing a protest.

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Old 23 Sep 2021, 11:54 AM   #49
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This thread began with discussion of legislation recently enacted in Australia: Surveillance Legislation Amendment (Identify and Disrupt) Bill 2020. It is an extension of the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Act 2018, aka TOLA.

Its astonishing overreach has been criticised by Digital Rights Watch, Australia:
https://digitalrightswatch.org.au/20...lance-mandate/

Last night Lizzie O'Shea, Chair, Digital Rights Watch was interviewed about this topic on ABC Radio National, Late Night Live program (20min):
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational...ks-up/13553368

Related comment...

--at Michael West Media:
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/human...-in-australia/
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/manal...nd-me-of-home/

--from the creators of Session, a decentralised encrypted communications app developed mostly in Australia:
https://getsession.org/blog/session-...communications
https://getsession.org/on-the-recent...ce-legislation
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