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Old 9 Apr 2024, 08:31 AM   #46
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... The term has a very specific meaning that applies primarily to social media platforms.
very specific to closed platforms, that make it difficult for their users to stop using them and leave.
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Old 9 Apr 2024, 03:01 PM   #47
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One could argue that the term breaches the rules of this "family-friendly" forum.

If you were a schoolteacher, would you use this term in front of a class?
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Old 9 Apr 2024, 05:39 PM   #48
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It's a word that perhaps is not so family friendly wrapped with prefixes and suffixes that make it more "scientific" and thus more acceptable.
If I were a teacher I would probably have used it if the context was right, since I'm sure the students would understand the meaning much better than with a cleansed term.
If I were a teacher I would also not have banned Huckleberry Fin but instead make the effort to teach the students about the context and the origins of language that is in the book.
If we want to cleanse the term we could use "enpoofication" or "the new number two".
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 12:17 AM   #49
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it's confusing. support says that you can't switch from basic to duo. (duo actually seems to be a good and ultimately cheaper option). then you ask more sharply and bring in the argument of discrimination against longterm customers and suddenly you get an answer that you can switch from basic to due. a strange policy is being pursued here.
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 01:16 AM   #50
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So is the big difference with the new "Individual & Family" plans versus the "Business" plans is that these new plans do not support IMAP? The "Business" plans specifically say "Use with third-party apps (e.g. Outlook, iPhone Mail)", but this feature is missing from the new "Duo" and "Family" plan list. If this is the case this kills the use of the new "Family" plan for my family, then - we use more email clients than just the Fastmail app on a phone...
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 01:24 AM   #51
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I've just looked at:

https://www.fastmail.com/pricing/

And for Individual/Duo/Family plans, it shows a green check/tick mark for use with third-party apps.
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 01:32 AM   #52
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And for Individual/Duo/Family plans, it shows a green check/tick mark for use with third-party apps.
Ah, thank you! I didn't scroll down far enough in the page. Okay so these become very interesting again I do hope they open up a migration path for us long-time users then...
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 03:06 AM   #53
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If we want to cleanse the term we could use "enpoofication" or "the new number two".
"the new Number Two".. oh noooo.... that term is triggering for me
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 03:14 AM   #54
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"the new Number Two".. oh noooo.... that term is triggering for me
Come in NumberSix, your time is up
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 03:22 AM   #55
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A good buddy of mine started a business a while ago mostly for apartment complexes for cleaning up animal waste. I jokingly refer to him as being 'number one in the number two business'.
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 04:02 AM   #56
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Ok - which will be the new one?
this looks interesting: https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 04:41 AM   #57
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Saw this page linked to from a Fastmail post on Twitter/X: https://www.fastmail.com/blog/new-fa...s-and-pricing/

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Information for existing customers
We’re thrilled by your excitement about these new plans! We’ve updated storage for all existing Basic and Standard users today at no extra cost.

We’ll be moving everyone to our new plans and pricing later this year, as soon as we’re able to. This will include billing you in the local currency of your billing country when supported.

We’ll email you at least 30 days before your first renewal under the new plans to ensure you have all the details, including the price of your renewal, which may change. You’ll also have the option to switch to our Duo or Family plan at that time.
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 11:39 AM   #58
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Based on the listed prices for the new plans, we are looking at a 37% increase.

We currently have a family plan with 1 standard and 1 basic.
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 07:19 PM   #59
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Love the way Fastmail adds extra storage to try and justify the price increase, knowing full well the vast majority of users will not use anywhere near that amount.
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Old 10 Apr 2024, 07:31 PM   #60
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to be honest, i don't need more storage on the basic plan, i just need a way to switch from basic to duo without any problems or lame excuses. long-time fastmail customers are really being treated like pansies here, not to mention discriminated against.

if i've applied the maths correctly, then a duo account for a family seems cheaper than all the other possible options, doesn't it?
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