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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:06 AM   #76
squiz0
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Red face

Wow. This really is f***ed up. I followed the situation now and stayed calm in hope that the service will be restored as soon as possible. Now the frontpage states that the service is being shut down. How unprofessional is that at all? I as a client don't care what your troubles are and i whish the best for you but won't agree with your decision. If you planned to shutdown the service then you could have stated it some time up front such that we could have had the time to rearrange ourstuff.

I would at least like to have the service online for 1-2 days such that i can answer pending emails and transfer to another service.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:10 AM   #77
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RIP Lavabit

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:19 AM   #78
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Very sad indeed. I do applaud Ladar for his honesty. I hope Lavabit can one day indeed be resurrected.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:19 AM   #79
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Wow. I read this whole thread wondering what on earth was going on, and this is the last post. I'm speechless.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:20 AM   #80
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Madness

What is going to happen to our e-mails? This is crazy.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:21 AM   #81
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So it's a case of he's done, and we have lost mail. ****.


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My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:23 AM   #82
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Sad conclusion. I regret not to have been warned in advance, so I would have had the time to change my subscription to various newsletters that were arriving on my Lavabit account.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:24 AM   #83
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So it's a case of he's done, and we have lost mail. ****.
Oh... and **** him for lying to start with.

If we knew the situation sooner we could have made other arrangements
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:24 AM   #84
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New update from Ladar is at: http://lavabit.com/

I was kept as much in the dark about this announcement as others. I will try to find out what the story is in regards to the previous information about the storage system.

Edit: It seems that others here beat me to the punch. Sorry.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:27 AM   #85
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Oh... and Pete Lavabit, thanks...

For also completely misleading us on the actual situation.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:28 AM   #86
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New update from Ladar is at: http://lavabit.com/

I was kept as much in the dark about this announcement as others. I will try to find out what the story is in regards to the previous information about the storage system.

Edit: It seems that others here beat me to the punch. Sorry.
I hope for you that doesn't mean you've lost your job.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:30 AM   #87
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Red face

The worst thing besides lost emails and lost contacts is that he has the balls to put a donation link under that message after this mess.

I'm really disappointed and angry. Maybe he underestimates how important email still is for some. It's like a hard drive failure without backup now.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:31 AM   #88
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The worst thing besides lost emails and lost contacts is that he has the balls to put a donation link under that message after this mess.

I'm really disappointed and angry. Maybe he underestimates how important email still is for some. It's like a hard drive failure without backup now.
Did you read the message? There is a (very good) reason that link is there...
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:33 AM   #89
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I don't think that's a good reason. This is an unprofessional way out.
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 04:35 AM   #90
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Squiz0 .- If you care for privacy I would suggest donating on said link. For me, all of my paid accounts constitute my first donation. No need to return the money paid.

Good luck Pete. Good luck Ladar.
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