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Old 23 May 2020, 04:11 AM   #1
camner
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New filter rules

Over the years I have built up a fairly lengthy and complex custom SIeve script, because the old FM filters were just not capable enough to do what I want.

The process of converting the manual Sieve rules to the new Filter rules would be a bit time-consuming. I wonder what folks' experience with the new Filter rules is and whether it seems worth it to convert?
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Old 23 May 2020, 06:00 AM   #2
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The "old" rules settings are still there and your sieve code is unaffected if your additions are at the very beginning or end.

If you are running with the "new" rules UI then you can create rules like you did with the "old" UI by clicking "Switch to no preview rules", creating a condition (or conditions) in the "old" way and then clicking continue. All the "old" options are still there.

"Old" sieve code you may have added to the beginning or end edit blocks is preserved and should still work as before. Stuff in the middle two edit blocks of the "old" sieve code isn't preserved (not sure why the one before section 4 isn't since there's also an edit block before the "new" section 4, different context I guess). I suspect if all you are doing is adding additional filters you probably only added them to the end block in which case all those should still work there unchanged.

FWIW I don't think I will ever be using the "new" default way of creating rules through the UI (always using the "no preview" mode). The default rule creation is too restrictive, takes too many clicks to navigate it, I believe uses "stemming" (useful possibly for searches) to match so the matches are not necessarily exact, and once you create a rule using it you can never switch that rule to using "no preview" mode. Indeed, since my account is old enough that I have the choice of "new" UI and "old" UI (I've read here new accounts don't have that choice) I haven't even switched to the new UI except for the times I wanted to see what changed in the sieve code and if those changes would affect my sieve code additions. I'll stick with the "old" rules UI until the choice is taken out of my hands.

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Old 23 May 2020, 09:40 AM   #3
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Thanks much for your helpful response, @xyzzy. I think I'll just keep with my (very) old sieve rule system.
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Old 23 May 2020, 10:36 AM   #4
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Thanks much for your helpful response, @xyzzy. I think I'll just keep with my (very) old sieve rule system.
You're welcome and good move!
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Old 23 May 2020, 11:38 PM   #5
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IIWY I'd keep the sieve rules, but switch to the new interface.

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Old 24 May 2020, 07:15 AM   #6
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The problem with doing that is that if you happen to be making changes to your sieve script or creating new rules in the UI while in the "new" rules mode and for some reason want to revert back to the "old" you will lose those changes. In other words FM saves your rules state (both sieve script and UI rules) at the time you switched from "old" to "new" and reverts back to that saved state if you switch back to the "old".

For those of us with such accounts I don't know what FM will do when the "new" becomes the only choice. Will they preserve what you currently have if you are already using the "new" or will the simply revert you back to the saved state and go from there?

Logically I would think they would just use what you currently have in the "new" if you are already using "new". But being a bit paranoid I don't want to take any chances. Hence I'm sticking to the "old" and occasionally verifying in the "new" or to see what other changes have been made in the "new" sieve code out of curiosity. I'm in no hurry to switch since the "new" doesn't offer me anything I really need.
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Old 24 May 2020, 09:39 AM   #7
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The old interface isn't going to be available indefinitely. If you only use sieve, switching either "just works" or requires a little work. Either way it's better to get it over with rather than wait to be forced.
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Old 24 May 2020, 12:32 PM   #8
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Thanks for your opinion. As I said I am only going to switch when the choice is taken out of my hands.

End of discussion.
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Old 25 May 2020, 12:37 AM   #9
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Thanks for your opinion. As I said I am only going to switch when the choice is taken out of my hands.

End of discussion.
I was offering my opinion to the OP, not to you.
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