Minor CSS print-view fix

Jeremy Howard · 26 Mar 2003, 06:11 PM

If you choose 'print view' on the View screen, there's a 'Return' link in the top-right to get back to the normal view. Of course, this really shouldn't be printed.

So, I've just added a 'noprint' style to the Professional Blue style-sheet, and used this for that link. I've tested on Mozilla, and indeed that link is not shown when printing.

I'd be interested to hear reports of whether this works on IE and Opera, and also if anyone has other ideas for this kind of functionality.

AndrewL · 26 Mar 2003, 10:51 PM

Thanks Jeremy for a nice refinement to the print view.

This works fine with IE 6 service pack 1 on Windows 2000 Workstation service pack 3.

Cheers,

Andrew

Mal · 26 Mar 2003, 11:49 PM

Works fine in IE 5.5

== Mal

Meow · 27 Mar 2003, 02:26 AM

Hmm, I almost never print email. Didn't even see the feature. Lean something new every day.

Yes, it works with Opera 6.06b on Windows NT 4.0 SP6.

(I won't try it with Opera 7. I don't like Opera 7 since it doesn't work with Citibank.)

But, I don't use the Professional Blue sheet. I use Concise Large because it takes less horizontal real estate. I guess now I'll have to muck about with making my own style sheet which combines all the features I like.

AndrewL · 27 Mar 2003, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meow
But, I don't use the Professional Blue sheet. I use Concise Large because it takes less horizontal real estate. I guess now I'll have to muck about with making my own style sheet which combines all the features I like.

I also don't normally use 'Professional Blue' either, but Jeremy's refinement to the print view still works. Currently the print view always uses the 'Professional Blue' stylesheet no matter what stylesheet you have selected in Preferences. I've checked this by viewing the HTML source of a print view page.

Jeremy, is this behaviour intentional? In some circumstances, allowing the user selected stylesheet to affect the print view could be useful.

Cheers,

Andrew

Adrian Bell · 27 Mar 2003, 06:03 AM

Jeremy, I've not used the "Print View" Option before as I mainly use a client, but I decided to try it. For me it shows all the HTML codes in the message for a HTML mail. This is with IE6 & Netscape 7.0, is this how it is supposed to work?

Jeremy Howard · 27 Mar 2003, 07:32 AM

No, it's not how it's supposed to work. I believe that Nico has fixed this bug in the development version, however.

SanjaySheth · 27 Mar 2003, 08:31 AM

Adrian, are you sure about that? I tried it out on several html emails (both in framed and inline mode) and they all seem to work properly in print view mode on IE6.

Perhaps, send the email to webmasterATfastmail.fm for review.

mklose · 27 Mar 2003, 09:38 AM

Send yourself a normal email from hotmail to fastmail.

It will show the HTML tags (mainly DIVs) in the print preview, will not show them though in any other "normal" view.

Adrian Bell · 28 Mar 2003, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SanjaySheth
Adrian, are you sure about that?

Yes, it still does it. See Here.

AndrewL · 28 Mar 2003, 07:04 AM

I think I can reproduce the behaviour that Adrian and mklose see.

If you do not have the 'View HTML' option selected in Preferences then the 'Print View' shows the raw HTML code. If the 'View HTML' option is selected then the print view renders the HTML properly.

Adrian, can you confirm this? Do you have the 'View HTML' option selected? If not, then selecting it should correct the print view of HTML messages.

Although this is a workaround, I think the underlying issue is still a bug. Many users will disable HTML viewing for security reasons (web bugs, etc.). Surely when the user has disabled HTML viewing of messages, the print view should use the plain text part or run the HTML through lynx if the message doesn't have a plain text part.

Regards,

Andrew

Jeremy Howard · 28 Mar 2003, 07:06 AM

Thanks for the diagnostics, Andrew. Well done! I'll pass that on to Nico.

mklose · 28 Mar 2003, 07:26 AM

I can certainly confirm that I have text view as a standard set up in my prefs (NOT HTML).

Adrian Bell · 29 Mar 2003, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mklose
I can certainly confirm that I have text view as a standard set up in my prefs (NOT HTML).

Yes me too, AndrewL you are correct.

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewL
Surely when the user has disabled HTML viewing of messages, the print view should use the plain text part or run the HTML through lynx if the message doesn't have a plain text part.

Yes, I agree.

NumberSix · 9 Aug 2003, 03:49 AM

I'd like to report that this bug/annoyance still exists, at least for the Netscape 7.0/Solaris that I use at work.

26 Mar 2003, 06:11 PM	#1
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	Minor CSS print-view fix If you choose 'print view' on the View screen, there's a 'Return' link in the top-right to get back to the normal view. Of course, this really shouldn't be printed. So, I've just added a 'noprint' style to the Professional Blue style-sheet, and used this for that link. I've tested on Mozilla, and indeed that link is not shown when printing. I'd be interested to hear reports of whether this works on IE and Opera, and also if anyone has other ideas for this kind of functionality.

27 Mar 2003, 02:26 AM	#4
Meow Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7	Works in Opera 6.06b WNT4.0sp6 Hmm, I almost never print email. Didn't even see the feature. Lean something new every day. Yes, it works with Opera 6.06b on Windows NT 4.0 SP6. (I won't try it with Opera 7. I don't like Opera 7 since it doesn't work with Citibank.) But, I don't use the Professional Blue sheet. I use Concise Large because it takes less horizontal real estate. I guess now I'll have to muck about with making my own style sheet which combines all the features I like.

9 Aug 2003, 03:49 AM	#15
NumberSix Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Village Posts: 615	Still no fix? I'd like to report that this bug/annoyance still exists, at least for the Netscape 7.0/Solaris that I use at work.

26 Mar 2003, 10:51 PM	#2
AndrewL Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 27	Thanks Jeremy for a nice refinement to the print view. This works fine with IE 6 service pack 1 on Windows 2000 Workstation service pack 3. Cheers, Andrew

26 Mar 2003, 11:49 PM	#3
Mal Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wanstead, England Posts: 170	Works fine in IE 5.5 == Mal

27 Mar 2003, 06:03 AM	#6
Adrian Bell Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Darlington, UK Posts: 938	Jeremy, I've not used the "Print View" Option before as I mainly use a client, but I decided to try it. For me it shows all the HTML codes in the message for a HTML mail. This is with IE6 & Netscape 7.0, is this how it is supposed to work?

27 Mar 2003, 07:32 AM	#7
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	No, it's not how it's supposed to work. I believe that Nico has fixed this bug in the development version, however.

27 Mar 2003, 08:31 AM	#8
SanjaySheth Master of the @ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,079	Adrian, are you sure about that? I tried it out on several html emails (both in framed and inline mode) and they all seem to work properly in print view mode on IE6. Perhaps, send the email to webmasterATfastmail.fm for review.

27 Mar 2003, 09:38 AM	#9
mklose Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 693	Send yourself a normal email from hotmail to fastmail. It will show the HTML tags (mainly DIVs) in the print preview, will not show them though in any other "normal" view.

28 Mar 2003, 07:04 AM	#11
AndrewL Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 27	I think I can reproduce the behaviour that Adrian and mklose see. If you do not have the 'View HTML' option selected in Preferences then the 'Print View' shows the raw HTML code. If the 'View HTML' option is selected then the print view renders the HTML properly. Adrian, can you confirm this? Do you have the 'View HTML' option selected? If not, then selecting it should correct the print view of HTML messages. Although this is a workaround, I think the underlying issue is still a bug. Many users will disable HTML viewing for security reasons (web bugs, etc.). Surely when the user has disabled HTML viewing of messages, the print view should use the plain text part or run the HTML through lynx if the message doesn't have a plain text part. Regards, Andrew

28 Mar 2003, 07:06 AM	#12
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	Thanks for the diagnostics, Andrew. Well done! I'll pass that on to Nico.

28 Mar 2003, 07:26 AM	#13
mklose Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 693	I can certainly confirm that I have text view as a standard set up in my prefs (NOT HTML).