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1 Feb 2022, 05:30 PM | #31 | |
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I'm okay with that being an option I can CHOOSE to use for my accounts, but now it feels practically mandatory if you don't want to risk losing your account. Also, if you end up moving to a different place, there's almost no way for you to escape this data collection even on an old account. Maybe this should be a separate topic though .. |
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8 Feb 2022, 11:42 AM | #32 |
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I was never a big fan of paid accounts until I got one with bluebottle which functioned so brilliantly I changed my mind. When they went under, I replaced them with posteo.de which is almost as good. To some degree paid accounts are less privacy invasive, provide more stability, and just seem to try harder to satisfy the user. There have been exceptions. VFEmail turned into webmail so complex it became useless, and more recently, Tutanota cheated me out of months of use on my paid account, by closing it due to 'inactivity', and not bothering to even refund the difference.
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11 Feb 2023, 04:14 AM | #33 |
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I am currently without any paid email accounts for the first time in probably a decade or more. Decided to go all free. I do have some domain emails that get forwarded from my domain registrar, but those forwards don't cost extra. To me the bottom line is KISS--Keep It Simple Stupid. I find the less email systems I have to manage and pay for the less stress in my life, and I find that I am not missing anything. YMMV.
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7 Mar 2023, 11:43 AM | #34 | |
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Firstly that "that $5 a month or whatever is completely insignificant". I'm retired and on a budget, but even I could afford that...but I don't...I pay about $15 a year at posteo email provider, so that's like a little over a dollar per month. Exactly what sort of amazing and cannot live without item does the wife expect to be able to afford, on that extra $1 to $5 a month you will be saving? Your provider might go away/You might lose your address Actually mine did, and I did...twice. A few years ago, Live.com decided that I could not live without their wonderful email service, and that they absolutely could not live without my phone number, so they locked it and held it hostage. Now they still do not have my phone number, but also are left with an abandoned email account that no longer generates any good saleable data. Last year gmail made the same exact mistake, with the same exact result. I consider both a win for me (in more ways than one), and a loss for them. While I intended to dump both eventually for being nosey-nellies, I might still be with them if they had not gotten greedy. do we _really_ have privacy? Privacy and security go hand in hand, and we have as much of both as we choose to acquire through time, effort and expense. I chose to have locks on doors and windows, a burglar alarm, motion-sensor CCTV, and a shotgun parked by my bedside. You may of opted out with the apologist rant that all locks can be picked, all doors can be kicked in, all alarms and CCTV can be defeated, and that everyone is a spineless pacifist that would rather die by a home invader that kill a thug...as Hollyweird has so desperately tried to convince through its myriad movies. If so, then I have a lot more security than you, simply because I was willing to take the time, make the effort, and pay the piper. Same for privacy. If you opted out of curtains/blinds on the windows, paper shredder, regularly evicting corporate squatters (LSOs, zombie cookies, etc.) from your PC, VPN, software/hardware firewalls, antivirus, antispyware, and so on, then I have a lot more privacy than you do for exactly the same reasons as before. Corporate thugs like Sundar Pichai, Zucky Zoidberg, Neal Mohan, and Satya Nadella will take as much as you allow, and while you may not be able to stop them from taking something, you can stop them from taking everything...if you are willing to take the time, make the effort, and pay the piper. I'm reminded of a speech by Frederick Douglass "“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has and it never will.” Concessions empower bullies to demand more, not less. |
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7 Mar 2023, 07:38 PM | #35 |
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People are often afraid of the wrong things, and so it is with privacy and security. Many trust their email to small companies that are much more likely to be hacked or suffer from simple lack of security and privacy controls. Plus, how do you know they aren't just reading your emails for kicks? There are those who refuse to give a recovery phone number to Google and then lose their account when something goes wrong. Most people are most in danger from phishing or other email attacks, so if you want the most privacy and security choose the provider with the best spam filters. Those are not the small providers that provide paid services.
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2 Apr 2023, 12:10 PM | #36 | |
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