Opera's Silence Speaks Volumes!

yetanother1 · 3 Nov 2012, 05:40 AM

I think that it is safe to say to Opera could care less about the current FastMail users and that you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for things to get better. They certainly are aware of their user's feelings about what has and is happening.

If they did care about us I think that we all would have gotten an email from them apologizing for this unannounced roll out of an undocumented, less capable product. The email would have explained what they intend to do and how long it is going to take. Instead, there is complete silence.

I can only assume that this new interface roll out is proceeding exactly as they intended.

Bamb0 · 3 Nov 2012, 05:43 AM

No they dont and i think my assuming that Brong and his team DID NOT WANT TO THIS is right on!!!

I think they should take a stand and bring back the original CLASSIC interface!! (What could happen??)

Brong if your reading this: WHY GO ALONG WITH THESE DISGUSTING CHANGES?? -- You guys had made a goldmine!! -- Why let people come in and ruin what you built?? (You were quite happy with it as we all were!!)

They have OPERAMAIL,if they like this disgusting "New interface" let them keep it ON THIER OWN EMAIL PLATFORM!!!!! -- They dont have a right to come in and destroy your companys build!!

Its way past time for people to STAND UP and say no more!! -- People who do still realise what good is!!

David · 3 Nov 2012, 05:50 AM

All existing (old) Fastmail staff (who are still around) now work for 'Company Opera' and are likely earning a generous salary.

Under these conditions support for the company you work for is always job #1

Bamb0 · 3 Nov 2012, 05:56 AM

Yes Dave and im sure they didnt want to do this....Opera probably waited until the deal was final BEFORE THEY STARTED THIS!!

yetanother1 · 3 Nov 2012, 06:02 AM

To be perfectly clear, I don't have an issue with the engineers. It is the management of Opera that is silent. They were and are the decision makers.

If they cared about their user base there would have been a "crisis meeting" and steps would have been decided on and taken to address the issues (e.g,. Apple Maps). It is clear to me that Opera management does not sense any "crisis".

Assuming that Opera management is not a bunch of idiots, then what they are doing has been well thought out and they are happy with the consequences.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

All existing (old) Fastmail staff (who are still around) now work for 'Company Opera' and are likely earning a generous salary.

Under these conditions support for the company you work for is always job #1

David · 3 Nov 2012, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yetanother1

It is clear to me that Opera management does not sense any "crisis".

Assuming that Opera management is not a bunch of idiots, then what they are doing has been well thought out and they are happy with the consequences.

Agreed: that being the case you either live with it or move.

mindfixer · 3 Nov 2012, 06:29 AM

All I can say is that the whole thing is very Un-Australian. Having had a paid account since 2002 and therefore providing support for the company through its ups and downs I feel very let down by the way this has been mishandled. There are plenty of dumbed down email services out there for those who want such things. This is just the same as sticking two fingers up at us. You guys would make great politicians!! Thanks.

Tappahannock · 5 Nov 2012, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

All existing (old) Fastmail staff (who are still around) now work for 'Company Opera' and are likely earning a generous salary.

Under these conditions support for the company you work for is always job #1

More likely they have restricted shares in Opera and a passel of stock options with a strike price at the market valuation when the acquisition took place. That's the usual way to hold such employees hostage and ensure their silence on matters of controversy. Then again when a company goes into steep decline such hostages are prone to walk away.

petergh · 5 Nov 2012, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tappahannock

More likely they have restricted shares in Opera and a passel of stock options with a strike price at the market valuation when the acquisition took place. That's the usual way to hold such employees hostage and ensure their silence on matters of controversy. Then again when a company goes into steep decline such hostages are prone to walk away.

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...76&postcount=2

oslostock · 5 Nov 2012, 03:20 PM

Possibly stock options also.

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...6&postcount=13

William9 · 5 Nov 2012, 11:13 PM

IMHO the implication is that the Fastmail users on this forum are small stuff.
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...45&postcount=5

PON · 6 Nov 2012, 02:37 AM

Don't know about others but I've been responsible for several dozen paying FM users. I'm holding off sending them a recommendation on an alternative until I have time to investigate (LuxSci and a few others). Thankfully, I set them up with their own domains.

Would be good to have something like CMSmatrix for email services. Pointers welcome.

bjh · 6 Nov 2012, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William9

IMHO the implication is that the Fastmail users on this forum are small stuff.
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...45&postcount=5

What an arrogant jerk. It's nice to know he appreciates Fastmail customers.

I've been a customer since at least 2005 (perhaps earlier - I don't remember) but now it's time to start looking for a replacement mail service.

Bamb0 · 6 Nov 2012, 10:54 AM

No they dont care... They did what they wanted: DESTROY FASTMAIL AS IT WAS AND MAKE IT AS BAD AS THIER OWN EMAIL PLATFORM IS!!

**JeffK** · 6 Nov 2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William9

IMHO the implication is that the Fastmail users on this forum are small stuff.
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...45&postcount=5

Ouch, that is not good PR with your customers. We'll put it down to a Danish sense of humour.

3 Nov 2012, 05:40 AM	#1
yetanother1 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 66	Opera's Silence Speaks Volumes! I think that it is safe to say to Opera could care less about the current FastMail users and that you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for things to get better. They certainly are aware of their user's feelings about what has and is happening. If they did care about us I think that we all would have gotten an email from them apologizing for this unannounced roll out of an undocumented, less capable product. The email would have explained what they intend to do and how long it is going to take. Instead, there is complete silence. I can only assume that this new interface roll out is proceeding exactly as they intended.

3 Nov 2012, 05:43 AM	#2
Bamb0 Master of the @ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,873	No they dont and i think my assuming that Brong and his team DID NOT WANT TO THIS is right on!!! I think they should take a stand and bring back the original CLASSIC interface!! (What could happen??) Brong if your reading this: WHY GO ALONG WITH THESE DISGUSTING CHANGES?? -- You guys had made a goldmine!! -- Why let people come in and ruin what you built?? (You were quite happy with it as we all were!!) They have OPERAMAIL,if they like this disgusting "New interface" let them keep it ON THIER OWN EMAIL PLATFORM!!!!! -- They dont have a right to come in and destroy your companys build!! Its way past time for people to STAND UP and say no more!! -- People who do still realise what good is!!

3 Nov 2012, 05:50 AM	#3
David Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada. Posts: 10,355	All existing (old) Fastmail staff (who are still around) now work for 'Company Opera' and are likely earning a generous salary. Under these conditions support for the company you work for is always job #1

3 Nov 2012, 05:56 AM	#4
Bamb0 Master of the @ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,873	Yes Dave and im sure they didnt want to do this....Opera probably waited until the deal was final BEFORE THEY STARTED THIS!!

3 Nov 2012, 06:29 AM	#7
mindfixer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 3	All I can say is that the whole thing is very Un-Australian. Having had a paid account since 2002 and therefore providing support for the company through its ups and downs I feel very let down by the way this has been mishandled. There are plenty of dumbed down email services out there for those who want such things. This is just the same as sticking two fingers up at us. You guys would make great politicians!! Thanks.

5 Nov 2012, 03:20 PM	#10
oslostock Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 14	Possibly stock options also. http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...6&postcount=13

5 Nov 2012, 11:13 PM	#11
William9 The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,281	IMHO the implication is that the Fastmail users on this forum are small stuff. http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...45&postcount=5

6 Nov 2012, 02:37 AM	#12
PON Essential Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wicklow, Ireland Posts: 449	Don't know about others but I've been responsible for several dozen paying FM users. I'm holding off sending them a recommendation on an alternative until I have time to investigate (LuxSci and a few others). Thankfully, I set them up with their own domains. Would be good to have something like CMSmatrix for email services. Pointers welcome.

6 Nov 2012, 10:54 AM	#14
Bamb0 Master of the @ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,873	No they dont care... They did what they wanted: DESTROY FASTMAIL AS IT WAS AND MAKE IT AS BAD AS THIER OWN EMAIL PLATFORM IS!!