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28 Apr 2003, 02:53 AM | #1 |
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Spammers using Fastmail
Hey:
A friend of mine who runs his own domain (and has had it for >10 years) and who has had the same e-mail address for the same amount of time predictably gets a lot of spam, and implements numerous measures to try to reduce it. One is blocking smtp servers that he thinks are large spamming sources. He claims that "fastmail is used regularly by spammers," and so he blocks it (and, thus, my e-mails from Fastmail). Is there any way I can convince him that Fastmail is not "used regularly by spammers," if indeed it's not? (Or is it?) I recognize it will be hard to do, because he's blocking based on his own personal experiences getting lots of spam from Fastmail, but hopefully there's some information out there that might help. Thanks. |
28 Apr 2003, 03:50 AM | #2 |
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The basic reason is that FastMail Guest users are not allowed SMTP.
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28 Apr 2003, 04:15 AM | #3 | |
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Re: Spammers using Fastmail
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http://jhoward.fastmail.fm/articles/spamcop_reply.html Sherry |
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28 Apr 2003, 04:37 AM | #4 | |
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28 Apr 2003, 05:05 AM | #5 |
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Unfortunately, several spammers are currently using FM to spam. They're often using the webmail interface. FM tends to nuke them though. Perhaps that will convince your friend, perhaps there are additional steps FM needs to take.
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28 Apr 2003, 05:22 AM | #6 |
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yup.... no more guest users.......?
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28 Apr 2003, 05:51 AM | #7 |
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No! The spam isn't only sent by guest users! see FeatureSuggestionsFiltering#Anti-Spam on the wiki for suggestions.
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28 Apr 2003, 06:12 AM | #8 | |
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28 Apr 2003, 06:52 AM | #9 |
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I guess they automate sending via the web interface..
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28 Apr 2003, 06:53 AM | #10 |
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Apparently people have paid for non-Guest FastMail accounts with stolen credit card numbers.
Business/advertising benefits aside, I wonder about the support impact guest access can have on services. As that relates to FastMail: http://www.emaildiscussions.com/...3732#post73732 I think it's a sure bet most guest users are only interested in yet another free e-mail service without any intention of ever paying (like, it's a cool and fashionable ), tho' the majority of them won't abuse it. |
28 Apr 2003, 07:27 AM | #11 | |
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28 Apr 2003, 07:53 AM | #12 |
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Regardless of account level you've gotta admit that much of the FastMail support on this forum is personal, just not private.
Anyhoo, that relates to discussion in How to get support from fastmail.fm? so I won't drift off-topic anymore here. |
29 Apr 2003, 03:10 AM | #13 |
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There's one idiot out there (I think his domain is rhyolite.com) who's convinced that "all free email services are spam-ridden"; I've refuted his claim by pointing out that FM is not, but I doubt that he'll listen...
And in any case, since spammers are thieves anyway, if forced (one way or another) away from the free services, they'll just (as already indicated) sign up for paid services using stolen credit card numbers... |
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