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23 Oct 2018, 10:36 AM | #1 |
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Examples of FastMail Hosted Web Sites
Hi,
I've read some threads here about hosting web sites on FastMail, and I'd love to see some real examples. Anyone know of any URLs? Thanks |
23 Oct 2018, 05:27 PM | #2 |
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Bad idea to post here if you´re using a Basic or Standard account: limited to 1 GB/2 GB bandwidth daily (and also hourly limit which is half the daily limit, and a 10-minute limit, which is half the hourly limit).
Maybe someone with a Professional account (bandwidth 200 GB) could post... |
24 Oct 2018, 12:21 AM | #3 | |
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In any event, with a bit of searching and use of Terminal I was able to identify several sites hosted by FastMail/New York Internet. There are posts in this forum suggesting that FastMail-hosted sites should be very fast, but that was not borne out. I actually found them to be quite slow, although I didn't look at the coding, which could account for that at least in part. The thing is, they were all slow, pretty unacceptably so. If anyone has a static site on FastMail and is willing to send me a personal message with the URL, I'd like to see how such a site compares, in terms of speed, with hosting by, for example, GitHub or Netlify. Thanks Last edited by redge : 24 Oct 2018 at 07:17 AM. |
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24 Oct 2018, 11:56 PM | #4 |
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> There are posts in this forum suggesting that FastMail-hosted sites
> should be very fast, but that was not borne out. I actually found them > to be quite slow, This puzzles me, as I was under the impression that one could only host a very basic site with FM - nothing that would for example require its server to do anything other than serve files. How did you test speed? |
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As a rule, any site hosted by FastMail should resolve to 66.111.4.53 and 66.111.4.54. If they're not pointing to those IP addresses, they're not being hosted by FastMail's web service, regardless of other ways in which they may be associated with FastMail. Quote:
Now, that doesn't prevent somebody from shooting themselves in the foot with a lot of synchronous Javascript, or by not having their images properly web-optimized, but that's a design issue that has nothing to do with where your website is hosted, other than perhaps not having the necessary bandwidth to serve up huge images. My own little personal blog (feel free to check it out here), which is static HTML that I built using Jekyll, runs lightning fast, but there's almost no JS there beyond the usual lightweight Disqus and Google Analytics pieces, and it's extremely light on images. For comparison, I have a copy of it over on Google cloud hosting as well, but there are no practical performance differences. |
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There are a number of discussions on the internet about how to do this and some sites will give you reverse information. I also used the ping command in MacOS Terminal and hostingcompass.com. Thanks for the URL for your site. It behaves on FastMail/NYI as I would expect a Jekyll site to behave, which is what I wanted to know. It loads much faster than the ones that I looked at. |
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25 Oct 2018, 10:27 AM | #9 | |
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If you want to run a static site, the host provider (leaving aside issues like server location) shouldn't matter. The fact that jhollington's site performs the same on FastMail and Google Cloud demonstrates that. That said, there are some host providers that are optimised in the back end for static sites. If you haven't checked them out already, maybe have a look at the U.S. host providers GitHub and Netlify and the New Zealand host provider CloudCanon. For example, CloudCanon makes it really easy to get a static site up and running even if one doesn't know much about CSS/HTML. Last edited by redge : 25 Oct 2018 at 10:52 AM. |
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For one, you don't get direct SFTP access. You have to upload/change files either using the Google Cloud Console on the web, or using Google's command-line cloud shell tools. The second limitation is that there's no way to realistically get proper SSL support. There is an SSL path to the cloud storage buckets, but it uses a certificate that's assigned to the "real" Google cloud name (*.storage.googleapis.com), which of course won't match and throw up an error if you try to access your site directly over SSL. By contrast, FastMail recently added the ability to install LetsEncrypt SSL certificates on its static web hosting by basically clicking a single checkbox. |
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25 Oct 2018, 10:11 PM | #11 |
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Thanks redge and jhollington. Both of your responses were very helpful.
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