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Old 27 Apr 2015, 09:58 AM   #16
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I know that, but I find their stance a bit hypocrite. Privacy is not binary, it's a spectrum........Also, domains for business is pretty much a must.
Which comes back to my point about "extreme" privacy.
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Old 27 Apr 2015, 02:20 PM   #17
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Which comes back to my point about "extreme" privacy.
There is a difference between informing authorities due to a subpoena and informing always when they request it. If thatīs extreme privacy then itīs what I need.
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Old 27 Apr 2015, 04:57 PM   #18
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I know that, but I find their stance a bit hypocrite. Privacy is not binary, it's a spectrum.

They accept payments made by paypal/credit-card. For the same reasoning they use to reject the use of own domains, shouldn't they allow only payments by bitcoin/money?
Payment info is not linked to a specific inbox and info about it is deleted after a week or so, permanently.

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They're not forcing people to encrypt the emails, they're however forcing people not to use their domains.
True, I found it a problem at first, but really, after a year of managing my domain, I decided to delete it and use just posteo's as hassle free. And there's really no problem, as people are always wondering WTF is this, if the domain is not gmail.

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Sure using my own domain might not be perfect, privacy wise. But I would still get to encrypt my e-mails and so on. I'd be better off using posteo with my own domain then any other provider..

Also, domains for business is pretty much a must.
Then use Posteo. If not, then there's mailbox.org, it's pretty much the same (also green energy etc.), just different interface and you can use your own domain.

It's a must if you're offering that kind of functionality.
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Old 27 Apr 2015, 05:20 PM   #19
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There is a difference between informing authorities due to a subpoena and informing always when they request it.
I agree but my point is that it seems to me that they are going out of their way to avoid holding data.

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Old 12 May 2015, 11:20 PM   #20
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Good article about Dane from Posteo:

https://posteo.de/en/help/how-does-d...rease-security
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Old 13 May 2015, 04:17 AM   #21
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I am moving to them, I like the new features.
I understand what 17pm is saying, FM is very fast and Posteo is slow with Roundcube but not all is about being fast, and I prefer Posteo, FM has dissapointed me.
Hi jl66 - just wondering how you have fared out with Posteo now that you have been with them for a month ?
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Old 13 May 2015, 03:33 PM   #22
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Hi jl66 - just wondering how you have fared out with Posteo now that you have been with them for a month ?
Very happy with them. I have added some more aliases (itīs not expensive), only using the browser to avoid normal attacks coming from pop/imap, loving the EV certificate and using the dane extension to know that nobody is spying my communications, email encrypted, calendar and contacts encrypted, a filter to send me a message (from posteo, not from my email or aliases) to another email I use in my mobile phone telling me what I wanted to receive ("You have new email in Posteo"), using pgp with "mailvelope" in the browser and no problems receiving from another emails.
Something I donīt like very much is that the new Rouncube version that they are using has some problem with privacy if you want to use all the features in Roundcube: you canīt disable dom.storage.enabled in firefox, but even if you disable dom.storage you can use the email perfectly but with some few limitations (when you send a message you donīt come back to the main window, you canīt use the options to mark some emails, etc).
But yes, every email service is different to every person, but I think I found what I was looking for
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Old 13 May 2015, 04:52 PM   #23
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I have been with them just over 6 months now and agree they are awesome
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Old 13 May 2015, 06:00 PM   #24
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It's a brilliant move, in these times very necessary. To me the encryption method sounds similar to Tutanota's and Protonmail's, but only for storage.

BTW: Tutanota also uses Dane: https://tutanota.de/blog/posts/dane-everywhere
Just waiting for the custom domains.
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Old 13 May 2015, 08:45 PM   #25
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posteo seriously looks/sounds like the almost perfect provider, but not supporting own domains... God damn it.
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Old 14 May 2015, 12:27 AM   #26
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maybe posteo offers good technical solution, but please keep in mind, they cooperate with radical left wing organisations in germany. ( http://blog.freiheitstattangst.de/bundnispartner-2013/ (proof: https://goo.gl/Vl59tJ ).

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Old 14 May 2015, 02:12 AM   #27
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.........they cooperate with radical left wing organisations in germany. ( http://blog.freiheitstattangst.de/bundnispartner-2013/ ).
I have seen similar posts from you regarding other providers but what evidence do you have to permit you to say that posteo "co-operate" with radical organisations ?
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Old 14 May 2015, 03:05 AM   #28
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maybe posteo offers good technical solution, but please keep in mind, they cooperate with radical left wing organisations in germany. ( http://blog.freiheitstattangst.de/bundnispartner-2013/ ).
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Old 19 May 2015, 04:47 PM   #29
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There's always a level of privacy one needs... I'm really looking for something good which I can use with my own domain. Any suggestions?
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Old 21 May 2015, 10:18 PM   #30
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Wide spectrum

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maybe posteo offers good technical solution, but please keep in mind, they cooperate with radical left wing organisations in germany. ( http://blog.freiheitstattangst.de/bundnispartner-2013/ ).
Partially true - if those on the list were organisation cooperating with Posteo. However, the list contains organisations supporting the "Freiheit statt Angst" campaign - which in itself is pro-privacy and pro-encryption, but much broader than left-oriented.

On the list are organisations from very different parts of the political spectrum. "Junge Liberale" aren't "liberals" as used in the U.S., but rather the youth organisation of the rather right-wing FDP party (although, party members would prefer to consider themselves libertarian, such as Ron Paul, the father of Rand Paul). Also, "Verbraucherzentrale NRW" is something like the Better Business Bureau of the German state of North Rhine Westphalia, and DJV is the rather conservative German Association of Journalists.

Posteo, on the other hand, isn't even named on the list.
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