Changes to Alias and Virtual Domain Limits - Page 7

robmueller · 15 Apr 2006, 11:31 AM

It's 200 total, but I'm pretty happy to increase if people really need it since we've scrapped ala-carte purchases. It was really just a "sanity" upper limit since I didn't think people would use that many, it gets hard to manage...

Rob

rmns2bseen · 15 Apr 2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by JeffK
Yes my post was in response to one that has been deleted.

That was mine...sorry for pulling the rug out

After I posted it I thought it sounded a little too snide

I was just wondering what anyone would do with 50 domains and 10,000 aliases

**JeffK** · 15 Apr 2006, 11:47 AM

That's OK.

FromLine · 15 Apr 2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by robmueller
It's 200 total

So, if one has:

1 Virtual Domain, 200 virtual aliases for that domain

2 Virtual Domains, an average of 100 virtual aliases per domain

4 Virtual Domains, an average of 50 virtual aliases per domain

5 Virtual Domains, an average of 40 virtual aliases per domain

10 Virtual Domains, an average of 20 virtual aliases per domain

20 Virtual Domains, an average of 10 virtual aliases per domain

25 Virtual Domains, an average of 8 virtual aliases per domain

40 Virtual Domains, an average of 5 virtual aliases per domain

50 Virtual Domains, an average of 4 virtual aliases per domain

Correct?

BinaryTB · 15 Apr 2006, 01:34 PM

I'm assuming there isn't a hard limit per domain. e.g. if you have 2 domains, then each domain is limited to 100 aliases each. I figure you could have 50 domains, 1 domain with 200 aliases, and 49 of them with 0.

Can anybody confirm this?

**ReuvenNY** · 15 Apr 2006, 01:43 PM

If you reread Rob's posting above, you will notice that the 200 is not a firm number, and they are flexible with that issue. So don't worry, just use what you need.

hadaso · 16 Apr 2006, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by robmueller
It's 200 total, ... just a "sanity" upper limit ... it gets hard to manage...

Quote:

Originally posted by FromLine
1 Virtual Domain, 200 virtual aliases for that domain
...
50 Virtual Domains, an average of 4 virtual aliases per domain

Math correct...

And I agree that it "gets hard to manage". So many aliases (if used by one person such as for disposable addresses) need tools to manage them in bulk (such as to block or to allow messages to addresses that match a pattern).

FromLine · 17 Apr 2006, 03:41 AM

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You cannot add more aliases under 5 characters without upgrading your account, or without purchasing more. To upgrade, click 'Done' and go to 'Upgrade account'. To purchase more, click 'Done' and go to 'Purchase aliases'.

I received the above message when I tried to add a 4-character alias and already used my maximum limit of three short aliases.

Suppose an Enhanced user wants more than three short (less than 5-character) aliases?

FromLine · 17 Apr 2006, 03:03 PM

I think 200 email addresses is a lot, regardless of how many domains one has.

In addition, you have 33 FM aliases, and virtually unlimited if you want to apply the anything@alias.domain.tld format.

robmueller · 17 Apr 2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by FromLine
[/color]I received the above message when I tried to add a 4-character alias and already used my maximum limit of three short aliases.

Suppose an Enhanced user wants more than three short (less than 5-character) aliases?

Sorry, you can't basically.

Yes, there is a loss of some flexibility by scapping extra purchases, but it makes many billing things internally easier, and is also a lot easier for users to choose the right level.

Rob

**ReuvenNY** · 17 Apr 2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by robmueller
Sorry, you can't basically.

Yes, there is a loss of some flexibility by scapping extra purchases, but it makes many billing things internally easier, and is also a lot easier for users to choose the right level.

Rob

I always felt that FM had too many internal restrictions/limits/conditions that were making email life cumbersome. This new/improved system makes life much easier for everyone. All we need now is a way to exclude some email addresses under the "catch all", which was promised a couple of years ago...

mikev99 · 17 Apr 2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by FromLine
I think 200 email addresses is a lot, regardless of how many domains one has.

In addition, you have 33 FM aliases, and virtually unlimited if you want to apply the anything@alias.domain.tld format.

It may be for you, but others may want to use things differently. I am consolidating my setup at Tuffmail. I have one domain with 120 unique addresses. Each person with whom I communicate is given their own address. It it the ultimate spam protection and monitoring system. Also, I have individual address control over the MX/smpt restrictions which is really a powerful tool (each address as its own spam setup).

I started out using the anything@alias.domain.tld at Fastmail. The problem with that approach is that one cannot just drop an address and have it go away. For example, give vendor1 an address of vendor1.sales@alias.domain.tld. There is no way to drop that address other than a Sieve script. The problem with a Sieve script is it adds a second layer of management to the system and does not drop the incoming mail server at smtp time. Also, folks can send to account@, sales@, and so on without them being automatically stopped. Essentially the anything@ system helps to monitor address use, but is not that great for prevention. At one time we had some discussion about having a reject list so that one could place the vendor1@ address in the reject list and mail would not be accepted to that address at smtp time.

It may end up not being an issue for me. The thing I really liked at fastmail was the web interface. However, I have been trying out Tunderbird 1.5.0.2 nightly and am starting to really like its features.

hadaso · 18 Apr 2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by hadaso
... I also see that each virtual alias has an "active" checkbox. ... Does it mean that if an alias is inactive then email to it would be rejected even if there's a catchall alias?

I checked it now and the answer is "no"!
If an email message is sent to an "inactive" alias and there's a catchall, the message would be received by the catchall.

15 Apr 2006, 11:31 AM	#91
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,102 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	It's 200 total, but I'm pretty happy to increase if people really need it since we've scrapped ala-carte purchases. It was really just a "sanity" upper limit since I didn't think people would use that many, it gets hard to manage... Rob

15 Apr 2006, 11:47 AM	#93
JeffK Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kingaroy, AU Posts: 3,177	That's OK.

15 Apr 2006, 01:34 PM	#95
BinaryTB Essential Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 271	I'm assuming there isn't a hard limit per domain. e.g. if you have 2 domains, then each domain is limited to 100 aliases each. I figure you could have 50 domains, 1 domain with 200 aliases, and 49 of them with 0. Can anybody confirm this?

15 Apr 2006, 01:43 PM	#96
ReuvenNY Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 4,259	If you reread Rob's posting above, you will notice that the 200 is not a firm number, and they are flexible with that issue. So don't worry, just use what you need.

17 Apr 2006, 03:03 PM	#99
FromLine The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,619	I think 200 email addresses is a lot, regardless of how many domains one has. In addition, you have 33 FM aliases, and virtually unlimited if you want to apply the anything@alias.domain.tld format.