How to use Fastmail generated sieve scripts in combination with custom sieve scripts

awaresoft · 5 Dec 2015, 10:15 AM

I'm curious if there's a way to use the rules that Fastmail generates for me with my own custom sieve rules. I don't want to change the rules that Fastmail is generating but I would like to supplement the auto-generated sieve rules with my own sieve rules. Any suggestions on how to do this and tips on getting started with custom sieve rules?

BritTim · 5 Dec 2015, 10:38 AM

With a little care, the answer is yes.

Open up https://www.fastmail.com/help/technical/sieve.html, scroll down to "Sieve scripts on our beta server" and read all about it.

However, a word of warning, you set this up on the beta server, and it all works in the background regardless of whether using beta or regular interfaces, except actions on the normal server that change the sieve script (like changing Rules there) will cause your snippets of custom sieve to be no longer included.

You must make such changes only in the beta interface. If you forget, then as soon you remember log in to the beta interface and force the sieve script to be regenerated.

I really, really wish this would be moved out of beta. There are customers I do not dare use this with because I know there is a high probability they would break it with a Rule change.

awaresoft · 6 Dec 2015, 01:14 AM

That's exactly the information and cautions I was looking for. Thank you BritTim!

n5bb · 6 Dec 2015, 04:06 AM

If you have a simple need you may be able to use rules with the Advanced rule type on the normal (non-beta) system.

In Define Rules select the File into folders tab.
Make a new rule using "Message with" Advanced. Set the desired folder, then enter a Sieve fragment such as the following into "The text" field:

Code:

allof(header :contains "to" "me@mydomain", header :contains "subject" "fileme", header :matches "X-Attached" "*" )

This rule will file messages sent to a particular address with a subject containing fileme and with one or more attachments into a certain folder. If the code fragment condition is satisfied the regular file into folders rule is executed. You can also use Discard and Forward Advanced rules containing a Sieve fragment. The Sieve can also contain an action (such as a redirect) and you can use stop to prevent the original action specified by the rule to be executed. Here are some examples:

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...top#post587823
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...79&postcount=4
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...780#post576780

Bill

awaresoft · 6 Dec 2015, 06:50 AM

Thank you Bill!

dcxley · 7 Dec 2015, 06:27 AM

I recently started using the beta sieve. It is brilliant. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BritTim

I really, really wish this would be moved out of beta. There are customers I do not dare use this with because I know there is a high probability they would break it with a Rule change.

Hear, hear.

If it is going to be a long time for that to go into production, then i wonder if there could be an alert message about that effect.

5 Dec 2015, 10:15 AM	#1
awaresoft Essential Contributor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Clinton, NJ Posts: 254	How to use Fastmail generated sieve scripts in combination with custom sieve scripts I'm curious if there's a way to use the rules that Fastmail generates for me with my own custom sieve rules. I don't want to change the rules that Fastmail is generating but I would like to supplement the auto-generated sieve rules with my own sieve rules. Any suggestions on how to do this and tips on getting started with custom sieve rules?

6 Dec 2015, 04:06 AM	#4
n5bb Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: May 2004 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 8,926	If you have a simple need you may be able to use rules with the Advanced rule type on the normal (non-beta) system. In Define Rules select the File into folders tab. Make a new rule using "Message with" Advanced. Set the desired folder, then enter a Sieve fragment such as the following into "The text" field: Code: allof(header :contains "to" "me@mydomain", header :contains "subject" "fileme", header :matches "X-Attached" "" ) This rule will file messages sent to a particular address with a subject containing fileme* and with one or more attachments into a certain folder. If the code fragment condition is satisfied the regular file into folders rule is executed. You can also use Discard and Forward Advanced rules containing a Sieve fragment. The Sieve can also contain an action (such as a redirect) and you can use stop to prevent the original action specified by the rule to be executed. Here are some examples: http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...top#post587823 http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...79&postcount=4 http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...780#post576780 Bill Last edited by n5bb : 6 Dec 2015 at 04:21 AM.

5 Dec 2015, 10:38 AM	#2
BritTim The "e" in e-mail Join Date: May 2003 Location: mostly in Thailand Posts: 3,090	With a little care, the answer is yes. Open up https://www.fastmail.com/help/technical/sieve.html, scroll down to "Sieve scripts on our beta server" and read all about it. However, a word of warning, you set this up on the beta server, and it all works in the background regardless of whether using beta or regular interfaces, *except* actions on the normal server that change the sieve script (like changing Rules there) will cause your snippets of custom sieve to be no longer included. You must make such changes only in the beta interface. If you forget, then as soon you remember log in to the beta interface and force the sieve script to be regenerated. I really, really wish this would be moved out of beta. There are customers I do not dare use this with because I know there is a high probability they would break it with a Rule change.

6 Dec 2015, 01:14 AM	#3
awaresoft Essential Contributor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Clinton, NJ Posts: 254	That's exactly the information and cautions I was looking for. Thank you BritTim!

6 Dec 2015, 06:50 AM	#5
awaresoft Essential Contributor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Clinton, NJ Posts: 254	Thank you Bill!