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[kander]

Originally posted by robmueller
The problem with a poll is that it's mostly existing users who'll vote, not new users, which is what the front page is mostly about.

For existing users, we'll eventually create http://login.fastmail.fm

Rob

Sorry to drag up an ancient thread... But I'd like to take the opportunity to point this out to the FM Guys again. There already is a sort-of clean login page, but it's URL is long and cryptic, and my initial forum search can't find it. Would it be possible to have login.fastmail.fm point to this page? Seems like a trivial thing to set up, but one of the small things that make life more enjoyable. Just like hot-water footmassagers!

EDIT: Found the link... or rather, one of them. I remember a different one being posted as well. Here it is: http://www.fastmail.fm/mail/?SLN-Log...nnosignup.html but I'll keep looking for others.

--K

[fmfan]

In

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/...n&pagenumber=1

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/...*&pagenumber=1

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/...ast+AND+log%2A

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/...ller+AND+login

?

[kander]

Yeah, that's what I meant. Could we have this as an easy-to-remember, and easy-to-type-in URL like http://login.fastmail.fm, please?

--K

[binary]

Originally posted by robmueller
For existing users, we'll eventually create http://login.fastmail.fm

Rob

This would be great if it happens, as (I think) it'd solve the problem of certificate mismatch warnings when using an SSL secure login page other than https://www.fastmail.fm, such as https://www.ml1.net and https://www.sent.com.

[Isaac]

Originally posted by robmueller
The problem with a poll is that it's mostly existing users who'll vote, not new users, which is what the front page is mostly about.

For existing users, we'll eventually create http://login.fastmail.fm

Rob

Hmmm...this will be hard to do at that address now that this URL is someone's home page.

[kander]

Hrm, indeed. Nice pictures, though!

--K

[Sherry]

Isaac, nice pictures. If those are pics of you, maybe you could put one on the EMD Photo Page?

EMD Photo Page

Sherry

[XB77]

Originally posted by binary
This would be great if it happens, as (I think) it'd solve the problem of certificate mismatch warnings when using an SSL secure login page other than https://www.fastmail.fm, such as https://www.ml1.net and https://www.sent.com.

Binary, how would that solve the certificate mismatch? I presume that you are having the mismatch because you are logging in to a domain other than fastmail.fm in order not to have to type in your whole address, just your ID at the login domain. Because the login domain is owned by FastMail, not Sent.com or whatever, the mismatch occurs. Either one has to type in one's whole address (if not a FastMail.fm one) or one has to click past the non-matching certificate notice. (Or one could turn off browser notification of non-matching certificates.)

Does anyone know someway to avoid the extra click aside from dumbing down the browser security?

[bitequator]

Cool beans, is that Rob (swinging from the tree like an agile monkey)?

Must be that mellow trip to the countryside he took

(Can't decide if we should use tree-swinging Rob or rollerblading Jeremy as the FM mascot...)

[kander]

I don't think that's Rob... rob is.. different. Compare his picture in the EMD Photo Gallery with the monkey.. not the same I think.

--K

[binary]

Originally posted by robmueller
The problem with a poll is that it's mostly existing users who'll vote, not new users, which is what the front page is mostly about.

For existing users, we'll eventually create http://login.fastmail.fm

Rob

Originally posted by binary
This would be great if it happens, as (I think) it'd solve the problem of certificate mismatch warnings when using an SSL secure login page other than https://www.fastmail.fm, such as https://www.ml1.net and https://www.sent.com.

Originally posted by XB77
Binary, how would that solve the certificate mismatch? I presume that you are having the mismatch because you are logging in to a domain other than fastmail.fm in order not to have to type in your whole address, just your ID at the login domain. Because the login domain is owned by FastMail, not Sent.com or whatever, the mismatch occurs. Either one has to type in one's whole address (if not a FastMail.fm one) or one has to click past the non-matching certificate notice. (Or one could turn off browser notification of non-matching certificates.)

Does anyone know someway to avoid the extra click aside from dumbing down the browser security?

Errr, you're quite right, what I said doesn't make any sense! I think I was posting in a hurry and misreading the point of the thread. (It was over a month ago, I can't remember what I was thinking then to be honest.)

Perhaps in my mind I was making a connection that wasn't there, but I'll explain my solution for certificate mismatches nontheless!


The point I was perhaps trying to make is this!...

To avoid the certificate mismatch when doing a secure login (and working on the basis that only the fastmail.fm domain has an SSL certificate) perhaps something like this could be created...

https//sent.fastmail.fm
https://ml1.fastmail.fm
https://emailplus.fastmail.fm

...and so on.

i.e. The "host" domain is incorporated into the URL as a subdomain, yet the domain is still fastmail.fm - hence no certificate mismatch.

The one snag is if someone has a username the same as any of the domains, i.e. if someone is emailplus@fastmail.fm then logically the subdomain of emailplus.fastmail.fm belongs to them.

Personally I think that the "subdomain SSL login solution" (as I've just decided to call it) makes sense, and should take precedence over anyone who confusingly has a username that matches on of the FM domain names. The time to act to implement such a solution is now, before the file storage feature is fully released and the all-important subdomains become users URLs.

(And the few people that have chosen a username that matches an FM domain name would not be given use of the file storage feature with that username - as it would be used for a login screen. To soften the blow they could be offered an additional account free.)

The above post is a bit complex, but it might make sense if you re-read it. (I'd certainly need to read it twice to figure out what point is being made!).

[vidvandre]

First things first; Isn't all the problems with the certificate warnings easily solved by just logging in at https://fastmail.fm/ (and adding the domain part to the username). Of course fastmail.fm will show up in the address bar, but other than that everything should be as normal... Or am I missing something here?

Else it seems the plan to create a login page at login.fastmail.fm have gone down the drain... Although the pictures were funny...

[XB77]

The certificate "mismatch" problem is that the Thwarte certificates for the non "FastMail" domains, like Sent, etc. are taken out in the name FastMail, thus the warning is only about the name mismatch. The other domains have legit certificates. I don't know how much it would cost extra, if any, besides time, for FM to file certificates in the approporiate name so that this warning wouldn't pop up. When one gets the warning, it is easy to click Yes to proceed despite the name mismatch. So that is one click extra in order to save having to type one's complete address into the FastMail.fm login screen. Of course, for those who have a xxxATFastMailDOTfm address, this whole discussion is mute. Maybe I'll use up one of my aliases to create a FastMail.fm address. Edit: Latter idea based on false premise that one can login using alias.

[bitequator]

Originally posted by kander
I don't think that's Rob... rob is.. different. Compare his picture in the EMD Photo Gallery with the monkey.. not the same I think.

Thanks kander, I never saw that photo gallery page before Very distinguished looking gents...

[kander]

You're welcome Feel free to add your own picture, as a long-standing member of the community!

--K