User study of new filtering & rules interface (jmap vs sieve)

snappy · 15 Jan 2020, 04:37 AM

Hi,

Did anyone participate in the new filtering & rules interface? What were your thoughts?

I had a chance and I'm glad I was chosen because I have some knowledge of Sieve.

So far it's looking pretty sweet. They can convert a JMAP query into a sieve filter and provide live preview!

The bad news because of the JMAP vs (traditional) sieve rules cause niggly UI/UX problems because of the overlap. They also have naming of rules to make long rules that travel over the entire page width have concise name width.

They don't distinguish jmap query rules versus sieve rules which is a bit annoying.

But it's a pleasant surprise and I'm glad they're integrating their jmap query system into their rules/filtering interface.

In the current incarnation I've rated the new filtering system as 6.5/10.0.

I hope they nail the UI/UX.

JamesHenderson · 15 Jan 2020, 05:39 PM

sounds good. Is it in the beta area / do you know how long until it is released?

snappy · 15 Jan 2020, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesHenderson

sounds good. Is it in the beta area / do you know how long until it is released?

Yes it is in beta. No I do not know how long until released. I hope they fix the glaring issues I identified in my user study.

My biggest concern is they don't make it easy to distinguish between JMAP query rules & traditional sieve rules. I think that's at the crux of the UI change. If they get that right everything else will fall in place.

In the state I saw it in, they didn't call it a JMAP query. They also didn't impose ordering (in the UI) of how rules applied. For example the Spam protection float around. They have a blocked senders, but they were talking about a use case where user defined rules can preempt a blocked sender. I think that's a terrible idea. Either you block senders by address or domain or you don't. If you need selective blocking then that's what user rules are for.

Just some of these things that were concerning to me.

15 Jan 2020, 04:37 AM	#1
snappy Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 8	User study of new filtering & rules interface (jmap vs sieve) Hi, Did anyone participate in the new filtering & rules interface? What were your thoughts? I had a chance and I'm glad I was chosen because I have some knowledge of Sieve. So far it's looking pretty sweet. They can convert a JMAP query into a sieve filter and provide live preview! The bad news because of the JMAP vs (traditional) sieve rules cause niggly UI/UX problems because of the overlap. They also have naming of rules to make long rules that travel over the entire page width have concise name width. They don't distinguish jmap query rules versus sieve rules which is a bit annoying. But it's a pleasant surprise and I'm glad they're integrating their jmap query system into their rules/filtering interface. In the current incarnation I've rated the new filtering system as 6.5/10.0. I hope they nail the UI/UX.

15 Jan 2020, 05:39 PM	#2
JamesHenderson Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 603	sounds good. Is it in the beta area / do you know how long until it is released?