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Old 2 Mar 2016, 07:35 PM   #1
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How did governments lose control of encryption?

The clash between Apple and the FBI over whether the company should provide access to encrypted data on a locked iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino attackers highlights debates about privacy and data security which have raged for decades.

An interesting story, written in a non-technical language, from the BBC.
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Old 2 Mar 2016, 08:09 PM   #2
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Yet another interesting related story.

John McAfee better prepare to eat a shoe because he doesn’t know how iPhones work | Ars Technica
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Old 2 Mar 2016, 08:58 PM   #3
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https://theintercept.com/2016/01/12/...on-encryption/
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Old 4 Mar 2016, 03:25 AM   #4
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OTOH: France could fine Apple $1m for each iPhone it fails to unlock
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Old 4 Mar 2016, 08:38 AM   #5
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@janusz, that was certainly interesting.

These sort of things make you wonder...
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Old 6 Mar 2016, 04:30 AM   #6
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A long(ish) story from The Register about legal niceties/tricks of the case. It's worth reading as it devotes a fair amount of space to the FBI's side of the story.

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But law enforcement is trying to tell anyone that will listen a hard truth: you like it now, but wait until you or your family are at the end of a crime and the person walks free because they were unable to prove their case. Thanks to that black-screened iPhone. Then you may not back Tim Cook quite so strongly
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Old 8 Mar 2016, 04:11 PM   #7
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The head of GCHQ [British intelligence and security organisation] has called for greater co-operation between spies and tech companies in dealing with challenges posed by encryption.

Robert Hannigan said the encoding of data was being misused by a small number of people. He said the rational response was not to think encryption was bad, but to look for pragmatic ways of responding.

At an event at MIT in Boston, Mr Hannigan said it should be up to politicians - not companies or spies - to set the parameters.[/quote]

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Old 8 Mar 2016, 04:54 PM   #8
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At an event at MIT in Boston, Mr Hannigan said it should be up to politicians - not companies or spies - to set the parameters.
We would have to search out an honest one first - methinks
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Old 9 Mar 2016, 04:46 AM   #9
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This is all just silly, the FBI can obtain a warrant and search your house, look over your credit card statements, view who you called, look at your bank statements, etc.

So it's not a privacy or security issue, if it was, the FBI wouldn't be able to do anything listed above.

It's an issue of whether or not the US Government can force Apple to open to build a backdoor into it's devices.

If the FBI was able to build the backdoor themselves it will be a non-issue. So it's not a privacy issue.
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Old 24 Mar 2016, 04:05 AM   #10
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Israel's Cellebrite linked to FBI's iPhone hack attempt

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The FBI said on Monday that it might have found a way to deal with the password lock set by killer Syed Rizwan Farook, who was behind an attack in San Bernardino, California, in December.

An Israeli newspaper has since reported that data forensics experts at Cellebrite are involved in the case.

A spokesman for Cellebrite said it might have more to say at a later point.
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