Will yahoo mail become another gmail? - Page 2

William9 · 5th October 2012, 02:49 AM

For me it takes Gmail possibly 2 or 3 seconds to load when signing on for a session, but after that initial sign on delay Gmail responds really fast. I do have a high speed ISP (at least high speed by US standards).

ChinaLamb · 10th October 2012, 05:54 PM

Yahoo is very heavily invested in Zimbra. Whatever happens will likely continue to happen on top of the zimbra platform. I would venture to say that you need to watch Zimbra development to find out what is coming around the corner for Yahoo mail...

drew · 11th October 2012, 06:53 AM

Today they reminded me that I had not given an alternative email
they could contact me if I lost my password.

apparently I had forgotten to give them such.
Mobile number or an email address they wanted.

Remind me later I told them.

Quote:

Update your password recovery information

Yeah I known can be good to have such alternative.
I only have to decide which one

David · 11th October 2012, 09:43 AM

I received a 'spam' from a friend's Yahoo account (a couple of days ago) which looked suspicious. I went to see them and asked them to check their 'sent mail folder' Sure enough a bunch of spam had been sent out, to folk in their address book (and possibly to other addresses as well) - the spams sent to folk in the address book were not in the Bcc field.

We next checked their 'login log' and noticed that someone had logged in from Lithuania (at the time the spam was sent)

Before we had time to change the password we received a notification from Yahoo, letting us know that the account had likely been compromised, and that the account password needed to be changed.

As nothing else looked amiss we did that and things have been okay since.

Yahoo were on the ball (this time at least)

drew · 12th October 2012, 12:44 AM

Could this explain it maybe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19896353

Quote:

"... we've seen over 50 million passwords stolen in large data breaches in 2012 alone."

LinkedIn's leak of 6.5 million passwords,
Yahoo's loss of more than 450,000 usernames and codes,
and dating site eHarmony's exposure of 1.5 million passwords
are among this year's highest profile cases.

No wonder yahoo ask me to secure the an update of how to
reach me if I lose the password.

ChinaLamb · 12th October 2012, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew

Could this explain it maybe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19896353

No wonder yahoo ask me to secure the an update of how to
reach me if I lose the password.

I stopped trusting Yahoo after they turned over private correspondence resulting in a journalist being jailed for 10 years...

They paid compensation to the family, but their response seems to say they would do it again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19432800

David · 12th October 2012, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinaLamb

I stopped trusting Yahoo after they turned over private correspondence resulting in a journalist being jailed for 10 years...

They paid compensation to the family, but their response seems to say they would do it again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19432800

I agree with you C/L. It still haunts me that Shi Tao was jailed (for ten years) mostly because of Yahoo (who collaborated with the Chinese authorities) Yahoo, as a Chinese police informant, does not impress me one little bit.

Tsunami · 12th October 2012, 07:56 PM

The thing is, you know the laws of a country when you choose to enter the local market. Yahoo chose the financial gains over the ethics, because for sure they must have known the risks involved when entering the Chinese market? It is quite sad they opted for the money rather than making a statement by turning its back to the Chinese crowd to assure they'd never be in a difficult position legally. Or were they just naive by thinking that the authorities would never ask them any form of collaboration or any data and that they could heavily cash in on Chinese market while never being confrontated with legal issues? (but that would be so naive that it is probably unlikely to be the case)

That said, I wonder if other big players who know the financial potential of Chinese markets were in Yahoo's place, would they have put ethics first and cease operations in China? Or would they too collaborate and put ethics aside for profit?

And what about other countries with heavy censorship? For example why is there no Arabic version of Yahoo for the Saudi and UAE markets? Did they learn their lesson from the Chinese event, or do they just think the Chinese market is financially interesting enough to put ethics aside while in other cases the profit isn't worth it?

ChinaLamb · 13th October 2012, 01:01 PM

Google left for these reasons and others. They ultimately protected the privacy of their user's data. I give the G a hard time over privacy, but they actually do pretty well, all things considered.

In the end, Y got burned because of it's relationship with the China branch of Yahoo and it's stake in Alibaba. Yahoo lost a bunch of money. I don't believe in Karma, but I do believe that short sighted or bad decision making processes are often systemic.

5th October 2012, 02:49 AM	#16
William9 Master of the @ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,689	For me it takes Gmail possibly 2 or 3 seconds to load when signing on for a session, but after that initial sign on delay Gmail responds really fast. I do have a high speed ISP (at least high speed by US standards).

10th October 2012, 05:54 PM	#17
ChinaLamb Master of the @ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pittsburgh and Shanghai Posts: 1,716	Yahoo is very heavily invested in Zimbra. Whatever happens will likely continue to happen on top of the zimbra platform. I would venture to say that you need to watch Zimbra development to find out what is coming around the corner for Yahoo mail...

11th October 2012, 09:43 AM	#19
David Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: location, location Posts: 9,246	I received a 'spam' from a friend's Yahoo account (a couple of days ago) which looked suspicious. I went to see them and asked them to check their 'sent mail folder' Sure enough a bunch of spam had been sent out, to folk in their address book (and possibly to other addresses as well) - the spams sent to folk in the address book were not in the Bcc field. We next checked their 'login log' and noticed that someone had logged in from Lithuania (at the time the spam was sent) Before we had time to change the password we received a notification from Yahoo, letting us know that the account had likely been compromised, and that the account password needed to be changed. As nothing else looked amiss we did that and things have been okay since. Yahoo were on the ball (this time at least)

12th October 2012, 07:56 PM	#23
Tsunami Master of the @ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in between the bright lights and the far unlit unknown Posts: 1,555	The thing is, you know the laws of a country when you choose to enter the local market. Yahoo chose the financial gains over the ethics, because for sure they must have known the risks involved when entering the Chinese market? It is quite sad they opted for the money rather than making a statement by turning its back to the Chinese crowd to assure they'd never be in a difficult position legally. Or were they just naive by thinking that the authorities would never ask them any form of collaboration or any data and that they could heavily cash in on Chinese market while never being confrontated with legal issues? (but that would be so naive that it is probably unlikely to be the case) That said, I wonder if other big players who know the financial potential of Chinese markets were in Yahoo's place, would they have put ethics first and cease operations in China? Or would they too collaborate and put ethics aside for profit? And what about other countries with heavy censorship? For example why is there no Arabic version of Yahoo for the Saudi and UAE markets? Did they learn their lesson from the Chinese event, or do they just think the Chinese market is financially interesting enough to put ethics aside while in other cases the profit isn't worth it?

13th October 2012, 01:01 PM	#24
ChinaLamb Master of the @ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pittsburgh and Shanghai Posts: 1,716	Google left for these reasons and others. They ultimately protected the privacy of their user's data. I give the G a hard time over privacy, but they actually do pretty well, all things considered. In the end, Y got burned because of it's relationship with the China branch of Yahoo and it's stake in Alibaba. Yahoo lost a bunch of money. I don't believe in Karma, but I do believe that short sighted or bad decision making processes are often systemic.