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Old 9 Feb 2017, 10:58 PM   #1
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i wish runbox can have apple push like fastmail

like title, i wish runbox can implement apple push like fastmail. i think it will boost selling, good price and nice feature ( for ios user ofcourse)


they said it on their road map, jusr hope not take long time
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Old 10 Feb 2017, 02:07 AM   #2
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like title, i wish runbox can implement apple push like fastmail. i think it will boost selling, good price and nice feature ( for ios user ofcourse)


they said it on their road map, jusr hope not take long time
Agreed, this would be a deal breaker.
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Old 10 Feb 2017, 05:18 AM   #3
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We were all very patient while they rolled out two-factor authentication. It took much longer than we all expected, but now it's clear why they were launching that with an entirely new set of servers. And along with that, they reportedly implemented an improved development process for new features and functionality. If this is effective, it should translate into quicker roll-outs of new features and enhancements.

I build and maintain rather complex systems, so I know how overwhelming it can be to move a large and complex system forward while thousands of people are using it every minute of every day. There's just no margin for error, and I've observed Runbox being extremely cautious with the roll-out of their new systems. I appreciate that greatly, so they have my patience.

I have a long list of fixes and improvements that I'd like to see, and Push for IMAP is definitely something that would be good to have.
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Old 10 Feb 2017, 05:11 PM   #4
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Runbox already supports "push" email in the form of the standard IMAP IDLE feature. This works with email clients that support this including Apple Mail on macOS.

iOS does not support IMAP IDLE, and requires the use of Apple's Push Notification service (which introduces a third-party and possible privacy concerns for customers).

However, it is a commonly requested feature, and we are looking at if we can provide this in the future.
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Old 12 Feb 2017, 07:33 PM   #5
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Runbox already supports "push" email in the form of the standard IMAP IDLE feature. This works with email clients that support this including Apple Mail on macOS.

iOS does not support IMAP IDLE, and requires the use of Apple's Push Notification service (which introduces a third-party and possible privacy concerns for customers).

However, it is a commonly requested feature, and we are looking at if we can provide this in the future.
great... hope can have a good news...

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Old 12 Feb 2017, 10:58 PM   #6
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Runbox already supports "push" email in the form of the standard IMAP IDLE feature. This works with email clients that support this including Apple Mail on macOS.

iOS does not support IMAP IDLE, and requires the use of Apple's Push Notification service (which introduces a third-party and possible privacy concerns for customers).

However, it is a commonly requested feature, and we are looking at if we can provide this in the future.
AFAIK FastMail solution is not a third party. They just managed to get Apple to issue an authentification certificate for them, and the rest of the protocol is described for dovecot.
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Old 13 Feb 2017, 01:28 AM   #7
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AFAIK FastMail solution is not a third party. They just managed to get Apple to issue an authentification certificate for them, and the rest of the protocol is described for dovecot.
From the FastMail blog regarding Mail on iOS:

"Upon seeing that the IMAP server offers support for Apple's push mechanism, the app sends the server a list of folders that its interested in knowing about changes for, and a push token. Just as described above, when something changes the IMAP server sends a message through Apple's push service, which causes the Mail app to wake and make IMAP requests to get the changes."

https://blog.fastmail.com/2016/12/21...lk-about-push/

They also note about their own app that:

"...there's arguably a privacy concern in that we're sending fragments of mail contents through a third-party service (though you already have to trust Apple if you're using their hardware so it's perhaps not a concern)."

I think as they say above, if you opted in to Apple's system, and can always choose "Fetch" instead of "Push", then really it is up to the customer how they handle this.

As I said, it is a popular request, so we will look seriously at what we can do here for customers.
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Old 14 Feb 2017, 08:26 AM   #8
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From the FastMail blog regarding Mail on iOS:

"Upon seeing that the IMAP server offers support for Apple's push mechanism, the app sends the server a list of folders that its interested in knowing about changes for, and a push token. Just as described above, when something changes the IMAP server sends a message through Apple's push service, which causes the Mail app to wake and make IMAP requests to get the changes."

https://blog.fastmail.com/2016/12/21...lk-about-push/

They also note about their own app that:

"...there's arguably a privacy concern in that we're sending fragments of mail contents through a third-party service (though you already have to trust Apple if you're using their hardware so it's perhaps not a concern)."

I think as they say above, if you opted in to Apple's system, and can always choose "Fetch" instead of "Push", then really it is up to the customer how they handle this.

As I said, it is a popular request, so we will look seriously at what we can do here for customers.
great news, that will be great feature
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 11:22 AM   #9
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From the FastMail blog regarding Mail on iOS:

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As I said, it is a popular request, so we will look seriously at what we can do here for customers.
Any idea of a timeframe? I am looking at options for Tuffmail and would like to have Push on my iPad/iPhone.
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 08:15 AM   #10
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We have started working on this feature, which shouldn't be very complicated.

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We have started working on this feature, which shouldn't be very complicated.

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Once you have this feature, match or of course even better beat FM with storage (not only mail but also files) and I am in
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