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28 Jun 2017, 02:40 AM | #16 | ||
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AND..! NEEDS SOME FREEDOM BROUGHT TO IT AGAIN! WMwhaha ;p German regulator says Twitch and YouTube streams are considered broadcasts, must apply for broadcasting license Quote:
to - $11,334.50 US Dollar NO individual COULD EVER AFFORD THAT...! IF THE GERMAN PEOPLE ARE INCAPABLE OF STANDING UP TO THIS TYRANNY AGAIN..!! THEN IT WOULD SEEM THAT THEY ARE IN OF NEED SOME "FREEDOM" FREE of CHARGE courtesy of the USA! lol LOL Bwhahaha |
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28 Jun 2017, 02:50 AM | #17 | |
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28 Jun 2017, 05:01 AM | #18 | |
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That's not what Posteo says about it, maybe you misunderstood that law, and I know that Posteo had some problems with authorities before and always defending their users.
https://posteo.de/en/site/faq Is Posteo affected by the reintroduction of data retention in Germany? No, Posteo is not affected by data retention. You don't need to be concerned about the privacy of your Posteo emails. The law on the reintroduction of data retention ("Gesetz zur Einführung einer Speicherpflicht und einer Höchstspeicherfrist für Verkehrsdaten") completely excludes email providers. The entire area of email is excepted from retention. In short, Posteo is not one of the affected parties. At Posteo, therefore, it remains the case that no data is retained. https://posteo.de/en/blog/transparen...edly-decreased https://posteo.de/en/site/transparency_report Quote:
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28 Jun 2017, 05:07 AM | #19 | |
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Second, encrypted IMAP or HTTP connections do not help in this case: they only protect you from outside eavesdroppers. They hide nothing from the email provider and so they do not help against a government forcing the provider to cooperate. However, encryption properly done on your machine, with only your communication partner (and not the email provider!) holding the decryption key, is practically unbreakable, even by the government infiltrated email provider. Use PGP or S/MIME and the content of your email is safe! (The subject line, sender, and recipient address are always revealed, though). But do not rely on web clients provided by your email provider to do the encryption - these will be infiltrated also! This is what I was trying to get across. |
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28 Jun 2017, 05:33 AM | #20 | |
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You are correct in stating that "data retention" does not apply to email providers, only network providers (and I already wrote that in my first post). But, like I wrote, Germany also requires all email providers to offer remote interfaces for government agencies to conveniently and secretly access their customer's email on demand. No exception for Posteo: Posteo does a very good job trying to fend of the usage of these interfaces, but they can not in all cases as their transparency report shows. So, to summarize: data retention applies to German network providers, eavesdropping interfaces apply to German email providers, inclusing Posteo, but hopefully not Fastmail. |
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28 Jun 2017, 06:31 AM | #21 | |
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29 Jun 2017, 12:29 AM | #22 |
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Folks, cool down the rhetoric and refrain from political comments.
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7 Jul 2017, 12:46 PM | #23 |
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Some news concerning the issues with germany?
As a german user (willing to bring fastmail to my whole family) it's not easy to decide what to do... No answer from fastmail at this point |
7 Jul 2017, 02:15 PM | #24 |
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As long as the help link below remains the same, I don't think you can expect any difference. You can always file a support request by clicking the link shown on this page.
https://www.fastmail.com/help/accoun...available.html Bill |
19 Jul 2017, 05:33 PM | #25 | |
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You could be right about it, I am not sure.
Posteo answered me that they don't post about these things in forums..., I told them that I only wanted to know the answer, not in forums, and that I was dissapointed with that answer but no reply until now... Suspicious. Quote:
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19 Jul 2017, 06:41 PM | #26 |
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But, for example, Tutanota posted about this here:
https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/data-protection-germany |
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2 Aug 2017, 09:16 PM | #28 |
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FastMail apps and signup available in Germany again
FastMail blog, posted by everyone's favorite, Bron!
https://blog.fastmail.com/2017/08/02...germany-again/ |
3 Aug 2017, 05:44 AM | #29 |
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I wonder what the legal situation is for your email stored on Fastmail servers that are based in the USA? Sure, the company personnel are in Australia, but they own a nexus in the USA (POBox.com) and store data in the USA. I can't claim to be a legal expert on this, but that would seem to indicate that at least some US laws would apply as they do to any other foreign company doing business in another country.
OT a bit, but let's pretend we are government spies and we are looking for something suspicious and we have a list of everyone and their email services they are using. My own attention might be immediately drawn to those using services like Proton Mail or Tutanota as obviously those people feel they have something to hide. Maybe the spies can't directly read the email, but knowing who is sending messages and to whom might be information equally as valuable. Not saying this is right or wrong, but it just makes sense. |
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