Rules help

drchadwick · 7 Nov 2006, 05:09 AM

For every mailing list I'm on, I give out a different alias in order to discourage spam. American Airlines gets "americanair@XXX.mail-page.com", and so on. (XXX standing in for my real username, obviously).

I'd like to set up my filters so that messages to certain addresses get filed in certain folders, so I set up a filing filter in the normal (not "advanced") Define rules screen which said:

Code:

Message with any header that contains 
"quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com",
"filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com",
"gkids@XXX.mail-page.com"

It's not working. Messages are still just landing in my Inbox without being filed. Should I be putting an "or" in, instead of the commas? Remove the quotes? (And yes, the headers of the messages in question do contain the addresses I specify.)

if this is more helpful, I went into the advanced screen and copied out some of the code.
(Please note I'd like to set this up in the normal interface, NOT the advanced screen. I'm pasting this in for reference only.)

Code:

if header :contains ["Sender", "X-Sender", "Mailing-List", "X-Apparently-From", 
"X-Version", "X-Sender-IP", "Received", "Return-Path", "Delivered-To", "List-
Post", "Date", "Subject", "To", "Cc", "From", "Reply-to", "X-AntiAbuse", "
Content-Type", "Received", "X-LinkName", "X-Resolved-to", "X-Delivered-to", "X-
Mail-from", "X-Spam-hits"] "\"quad@XXX.mail-page.com\",\"filmlinc@XXX.mail-page
.com\",\"filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com\",\"Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com\",\"
gkids@XXX.mail-page.com\"" {
  fileinto "INBOX.lists.film";

Si1 · 7 Nov 2006, 05:24 AM

The advanced screen seems to be escaping the " characters with \ characters.

Try taking the " characters out of the normal screen but leave the commas in.

drchadwick · 7 Nov 2006, 05:29 AM

OK, I've changed it so each e-mail address is just separated by a comma.

Next time someone responds to this thread, I'll see if it's working (when the notification e-mail, which is supposed to be filtered, comes in).

Si1 · 7 Nov 2006, 05:33 AM

OK, this post should give you a notification to test with.

drchadwick · 7 Nov 2006, 05:44 AM

Thanks -- still no dice.

Why is this so damned complicated? It shouldn't take a computer science degree to file e-mail into folders. It really shouldn't.

Anyway, here's the relevant code, if anyone has any ideas

thanks

Code:

}
}
if header :contains ["Sender", "X-Sender", "Mailing-List", 
"X-Apparently-From", "X-Version", "X-Sender-IP", "Received", 
"Return-Path", "Delivered-To", "List-Post", "Date", "Subject", 
"To", "Cc", "From", "Reply-to", "X-AntiAbuse", "Content-Type", 
"Received", "X-LinkName", "X-Resolved-to", "X-Delivered-to", 
"X-Mail-from", "X-Spam-hits"] 
"quad@XXX.mail-page.com,filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com,
filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com,Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com,
gkids@XXX.mail-page.com" {
  fileinto "INBOX.lists.film";

Si1 · 7 Nov 2006, 05:53 AM

It looks like the normal screen is only geared-up for one address per rule.
That would explain the escaping of the " characters.

If you want to use the advanced screen the code should look like this:

if header :contains
["from", "to", "whatever"]
["john@example.com", "jane@example.com"] {
fileinto "INBOX.my-sub-folder";
stop;
}

drchadwick · 7 Nov 2006, 06:08 AM

There's really no way to say:

"look for 'this address' OR 'this address' "

in one rule?

robmueller · 8 Nov 2006, 08:48 AM

It's not the "advanced" screen that's escaping things there.

You've created a rule 'any header' that 'contains' the text '"quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com",
"filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com",
"gkids@XXX.mail-page.com"'. In this case, it's using the literal text:

"quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com",
"filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com",
"gkids@XXX.mail-page.com"

As the thing to look for. So when it generates the code, it escapes the "'s by putting \ in front of them. You're then obviously looking at the Advanced script which shows you the actual code generated

Since you want to OR some things, you need to use an advanced rule, which directly inserts some script code without escaping.

So what you should do is create an 'Advanced' rule, ignore the "that" part, and for the text put:

header :contains [ "X-Delivered-to" ] [ "quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com",
"filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com",
"gkids@XXX.mail-page.com" ]

If you add that, then Done to leave the screen to rebuild the rules, then look at the actual code generated, you should find:

if header :contains [ "X-Delivered-to" ] [ "quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page
.com","filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com\",\"
gkids@XXX.mail-page.com" ] {
fileinto "INBOX.lists.film";

Which is what you want.

Rob

7 Nov 2006, 05:09 AM	#1
drchadwick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 179	Rules help For every mailing list I'm on, I give out a different alias in order to discourage spam. American Airlines gets "americanair@XXX.mail-page.com", and so on. (XXX standing in for my real username, obviously). I'd like to set up my filters so that messages to certain addresses get filed in certain folders, so I set up a filing filter in the normal (not "advanced") Define rules screen which said: Code: Message with any header that contains "quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com", "filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com", "gkids@XXX.mail-page.com" It's not working. Messages are still just landing in my Inbox without being filed. Should I be putting an "or" in, instead of the commas? Remove the quotes? (And yes, the headers of the messages in question do contain the addresses I specify.) if this is more helpful, I went into the advanced screen and copied out some of the code. (Please note I'd like to set this up in the normal interface, NOT the advanced screen. I'm pasting this in for reference only.) Code: if header :contains ["Sender", "X-Sender", "Mailing-List", "X-Apparently-From", "X-Version", "X-Sender-IP", "Received", "Return-Path", "Delivered-To", "List- Post", "Date", "Subject", "To", "Cc", "From", "Reply-to", "X-AntiAbuse", " Content-Type", "Received", "X-LinkName", "X-Resolved-to", "X-Delivered-to", "X- Mail-from", "X-Spam-hits"] "\"quad@XXX.mail-page.com\",\"filmlinc@XXX.mail-page .com\",\"filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com\",\"Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com\",\" gkids@XXX.mail-page.com\"" { fileinto "INBOX.lists.film";

7 Nov 2006, 05:24 AM	#2
Si1 Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 590	The advanced screen seems to be escaping the " characters with \ characters. Try taking the " characters out of the normal screen but leave the commas in.

7 Nov 2006, 05:29 AM	#3
drchadwick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 179	OK, I've changed it so each e-mail address is just separated by a comma. Next time someone responds to this thread, I'll see if it's working (when the notification e-mail, which is supposed to be filtered, comes in).

7 Nov 2006, 05:33 AM	#4
Si1 Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 590	OK, this post should give you a notification to test with.

7 Nov 2006, 05:53 AM	#6
Si1 Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 590	It looks like the normal screen is only geared-up for one address per rule. That would explain the escaping of the " characters. If you want to use the advanced screen the code should look like this: if header :contains ["from", "to", "whatever"] ["john@example.com", "jane@example.com"] { fileinto "INBOX.my-sub-folder"; stop; }

7 Nov 2006, 06:08 AM	#7
drchadwick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 179	There's really no way to say: "look for 'this address' OR 'this address' " in one rule?

8 Nov 2006, 08:48 AM	#8
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,102 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	It's not the "advanced" screen that's escaping things there. You've created a rule 'any header' that 'contains' the text '"quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com", "filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com", "gkids@XXX.mail-page.com"'. In this case, it's using the literal text: "quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com", "filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com", "gkids@XXX.mail-page.com" As the thing to look for. So when it generates the code, it escapes the "'s by putting \ in front of them. You're then obviously looking at the Advanced script which shows you the actual code generated Since you want to OR some things, you need to use an advanced rule, which directly inserts some script code without escaping. So what you should do is create an 'Advanced' rule, ignore the "that" part, and for the text put: header :contains [ "X-Delivered-to" ] [ "quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page.com", "filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com", "gkids@XXX.mail-page.com" ] If you add that, then Done to leave the screen to rebuild the rules, then look at the actual code generated, you should find: if header :contains [ "X-Delivered-to" ] [ "quad@XXX.mail-page.com","filmlinc@XXX.mail-page .com","filmforum@XXX.mail-page.com","Pioneer-Theater@googlegroups.com\",\" gkids@XXX.mail-page.com" ] { fileinto "INBOX.lists.film"; Which is what you want. Rob