Advanced Spam Protection Suggestion

MrBond · 6 May 2002, 07:34 AM

Is there a way we could purchase some of the neato features separetely? I'm very close to becoming a standard member, but I also want the advanced spam protection. If the advanced spam protection was sold in a separate package, that right there would be a winner for me, since I have little interest in the other whiz-bang features of Full Accounts

Thanks for any consideration.

Jeremy Howard · 6 May 2002, 08:47 AM

No, we're keen to avoid making the pricing more complex. Our hope is that people who need a feature from a higher level will upgrade to that level to get it, even if they don't need every feature made available.

joelpt · 6 May 2002, 09:06 AM

Here's my current members-only spam-eating Sieve script, largely compiled from suggestions on this forum. I haven't gotten a spam in my inbox in about a week because of this (about how long it's been since I last modified it).

Change fileinto "Inbox.Spam" to reject or discard as you see fit.

PHP Code:


			
require ["fileinto", "reject", "vacation", "regex"];



if header :contains "subject" ["porn", "career", "credit", "viagra", "loan", "background check", "xxx", "special offer", "naked", "promotion", "debt", "business opportunity", "stock", "invest", "bankrupt", "mortgage", "quote", "casino"] 

  { fileinto "INBOX.Spam"; }



elsif header :regex "subject" "[[:space:].\-_]{6}#?\[?[[:digit:]]+\]?$"

  { fileinto "INBOX.Spam"; }



elsif not exists ["To", "From"]

  { fileinto "INBOX.Spam"; }

Jeremy Howard · 6 May 2002, 09:13 AM

Guests can also use this script. Use the 'Mailing lists/File into folders' section, and set "Look in:" to "Advanced" to type in the custom criteria.

Tango · 6 May 2002, 09:38 PM

Is the sieve script "arena" still going ahead as planned?

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/...hlight=scripts

Jeremy Howard · 7 May 2002, 07:01 AM

We haven't done any work on that since (as you know we've been pretty busy on other things!) but it's still planned.

Kyle Babich · 7 May 2002, 07:12 AM

With that script, what if it's your bank e-mailing you to tell you that your mortage payment for the month has been rejected? Or your friend to tell you that the company that you put 5,000 dollars into a couple weeks ago just went bankrupt?

nic76 · 7 May 2002, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kyle Babich
With that script, what if it's your bank e-mailing you to tell you that your mortage payment for the month has been rejected? Or your friend to tell you that the company that you put 5,000 dollars into a couple weeks ago just went bankrupt?

it's better to move such mails to a spam folder than to discard them, the spam software installed on fastmail once moved a message of my boyfriend to my spam folder, you are never 100% sure about these things

ahkium · 8 May 2002, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nic76

it's better to move such mails to a spam folder than to discard them, the spam software installed on fastmail once moved a message of my boyfriend to my spam folder, you are never 100% sure about these things

that's understandable... the kind of emails i send to my girlfriend once in a while would probably go straight to the spam folder too haha...

nutmeg · 8 May 2002, 08:53 AM

SpamAssassin uses a set of heuristic tests on the messages. Some tests identify spam others identify valid mails. The result is a weighted sum of the outcome of all matching test. I try to mimic this with Sieve filters, but since there are no way to score messages it becomes rather black and white.. (actually this is based on some old procmail recipes I've used before with good results)

The idea is pretty simple: With a set of filters; some black and some white. Start with the one you feel most sure of (not the one that would catch most, but the one that would fail least) and continue til the most unsure filters. Alternate the blacks and whites a bit. Possibly save messages into various Spam and Inbox folders. (I move some to Trash and some to Spam. Nothing is discarded. And, of course, the Inbox move is done by "keep" so that +suffixes still work)

My rules are, for instance: Friends (full e-mail) and co-workers (domain) send important mails. People that reply to my mail, or have me in their addressbook, write mails To: "my name <my@email>", while spammers use either To: "my@email <my@email>" or blind copies. Similar rules apply for the From: header. (mails with missing headers are often bad) While people fond of colours and fonts send both html and text, spammers send html only.
And so on.. You've got the picture?

You can use this together with SpamAssassin to overrule those mails that go wrong for you. (generic rules can't be perfect for everyone)

6 May 2002, 07:34 AM	#1
MrBond Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10	Advanced Spam Protection Suggestion Is there a way we could purchase some of the neato features separetely? I'm very close to becoming a standard member, but I also want the advanced spam protection. If the advanced spam protection was sold in a separate package, that right there would be a winner for me, since I have little interest in the other whiz-bang features of Full Accounts Thanks for any consideration.

6 May 2002, 09:06 AM	#3
joelpt Essential Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle WA USA Posts: 205	Here's my current members-only spam-eating Sieve script, largely compiled from suggestions on this forum. I haven't gotten a spam in my inbox in about a week because of this (about how long it's been since I last modified it). Change fileinto "Inbox.Spam" to reject or discard as you see fit. PHP Code: require ["fileinto", "reject", "vacation", "regex"]; if header :contains "subject" ["porn", "career", "credit", "viagra", "loan", "background check", "xxx", "special offer", "naked", "promotion", "debt", "business opportunity", "stock", "invest", "bankrupt", "mortgage", "quote", "casino"] { fileinto "INBOX.Spam"; } elsif header :regex "subject" "[[:space:].\-_]{6}#?\[?[[:digit:]]+\]?$" { fileinto "INBOX.Spam"; } elsif not exists ["To", "From"] { fileinto "INBOX.Spam"; }

6 May 2002, 08:47 AM	#2
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	No, we're keen to avoid making the pricing more complex. Our hope is that people who need a feature from a higher level will upgrade to that level to get it, even if they don't need every feature made available.

6 May 2002, 09:13 AM	#4
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	Guests can also use this script. Use the 'Mailing lists/File into folders' section, and set "Look in:" to "Advanced" to type in the custom criteria.

6 May 2002, 09:38 PM	#5
Tango Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 529	Is the sieve script "arena" still going ahead as planned? http://www.emaildiscussions.com/...hlight=scripts

7 May 2002, 07:01 AM	#6
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	We haven't done any work on that since (as you know we've been pretty busy on other things!) but it's still planned.

7 May 2002, 07:12 AM	#7
Kyle Babich Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 540	With that script, what if it's your bank e-mailing you to tell you that your mortage payment for the month has been rejected? Or your friend to tell you that the company that you put 5,000 dollars into a couple weeks ago just went bankrupt?

8 May 2002, 08:53 AM	#10
nutmeg Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	SpamAssassin uses a set of heuristic tests on the messages. Some tests identify spam others identify valid mails. The result is a weighted sum of the outcome of all matching test. I try to mimic this with Sieve filters, but since there are no way to score messages it becomes rather black and white.. (actually this is based on some old procmail recipes I've used before with good results) The idea is pretty simple: With a set of filters; some black and some white. Start with the one you feel most sure of (not the one that would catch most, but the one that would fail least) and continue til the most unsure filters. Alternate the blacks and whites a bit. Possibly save messages into various Spam and Inbox folders. (I move some to Trash and some to Spam. Nothing is discarded. And, of course, the Inbox move is done by "keep" so that +suffixes still work) My rules are, for instance: Friends (full e-mail) and co-workers (domain) send important mails. People that reply to my mail, or have me in their addressbook, write mails To: "my name <my@email>", while spammers use either To: "my@email <my@email>" or blind copies. Similar rules apply for the From: header. (mails with missing headers are often bad) While people fond of colours and fonts send both html and text, spammers send html only. And so on.. You've got the picture? You can use this together with SpamAssassin to overrule those mails that go wrong for you. (generic rules can't be perfect for everyone)