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23 Jan 2016, 03:30 AM | #31 | |
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From a security standpoint, free is better because payments can compromise anonymity. It's good that crypto-currency is accepted, but that's not fool-proof. Offering paypal is a very bad idea. Not only is it bad for security, but paypal is terribly unethical. Paypal (now owned by CISPA-supporting eBay) voluntarily blocked donations going to wikileaks. Not to mention their atrocious customer service. Safe-mail.eu should be boycotting paypal, not supporting it considering your customers have some respect for civil liberties. I suggest pop3 on the free accounts, and taking crypto-currency donations. That way donors are not linked to a particular account, and don't compromise anonymity. |
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23 Jan 2016, 08:30 PM | #32 |
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protonmail is still not availible for the public, isnt it? do i need an invite?
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24 Jan 2016, 02:13 AM | #33 |
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It is available, no need for an invite.
I opened an account, but I found it unusable (may be my fault). |
24 Jan 2016, 02:19 PM | #34 |
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Please explain "unusable".
Have you reported the unusable issue it to ProtonMail Admin? |
24 Jan 2016, 03:18 PM | #35 |
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What email service is open source and how is an EV SSL certificate a feature? No offense just a lot of that makes no sense.
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24 Jan 2016, 04:29 PM | #36 | |
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EV SSL certificate give us more security against false certificates and interception, so I consider it a feature: https://www.grc.com/fingerprints.htm https://www.grc.com/ssl/ev.htm |
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24 Jan 2016, 06:18 PM | #37 | |
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It gives you nothing more then a nice green bar with your name company in it. It only costs you 20-160 times more then a normal one |
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24 Jan 2016, 06:41 PM | #38 | |
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Request an invite for a free ProtonMail account. Due to high demand, we have hit our capacity limit. We are adding servers constantly and will send you an invitation as soon as possible. |
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25 Jan 2016, 01:46 AM | #39 | |
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25 Jan 2016, 01:59 AM | #40 | |
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I did, did you read this:
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As i said, i can be intercepted also and give it a status that it is secure. A false one. And then we didn't discussed the IE problem yet |
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25 Jan 2016, 02:22 AM | #41 | |
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1. Roundcube can be installed on a personal system at any time and used to connect to any service that supports IMAP/SMTP. As a feature it seems mostly irrelevant to me. I've come to accept it as a basic requirement or easily set up myself if not provided. 2. I would encourage people to not consider EV SSL as something that can boost a provider from "untrusted" to "trusted." But that's the thing, that's most of what it is supposed to do is encourage a level of trust. Plenty of scammers and terrible developers are capable of obtaining this. It doesn't measure skill, it doesn't judge intent, and it doesn't validate your business plan. It merely means "I am who I say I am." SSL security, regardless of the certificate type, can be compromised at the client system and that will always be the primary battleground for security, something no provider can ever truly protect you from. I assure you that if anyone wants to distribute malware that intercepts the SSL connection on your system and maintains the green bar in your browser, they can absolutely do so. You have to think that local malware can have a multi-tiered approach to malicious activity, one of which can just as easily be alteration to your browser. I'm quite confident in saying that the only barrier to a proof of concept is motivation. Right now that just isn't a big playground for malware in general, many are still content with the good old "lock up your system for ransom money" scam But anyway.... on the topic subject... I'll raise my hand as new since 2012 Last edited by jarland : 25 Jan 2016 at 02:54 AM. |
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25 Jan 2016, 03:14 AM | #42 | |
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In other words, this site — WWW.GRC.COM — uses extended validation certificates. If you are viewing this site through a properly designed web browser, you can only see the green EV indication if the connection is NOT being intercepted! |
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25 Jan 2016, 03:31 AM | #43 | |
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25 Jan 2016, 05:51 AM | #44 |
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What I mean is that browsing some website I could only see the padlock and https (only a secure website but who knows if the certificate is compromised or a mitm attack is hidden, I could only check sha fingerprint in it and compare with the original) OR I could see the "entire bar" in green (as we can see when an EV certificate is working), and so it's fast to know that you are safe if the entire bar is green thanks to the EV certificate.
If I know that this website has an EV certificate and my browser (not explorer) is not showing entirely in green then something is happening... If some service offers to the clients this EV certificate then we know! |
26 Jan 2016, 04:02 AM | #45 | |
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It looks rather intimidating to me. Is that the image you wish to portray for your service, and do you hope that image will attract a particular type of user? |
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