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Old 17 Mar 2004, 07:56 PM   #31
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I lost 70 pounds (32kg?) about three years ago and have managed to keep it all off.

I don't believe in all the fad diets such as super low carb or super high fat. This is my "diet" mantra:

Eat a little bit of everything, including carbs and dairy products, but, eat them in smaller portions. Finally, exercise.

The "trick" to losing weight and keeping it all off is willpower and discipline. It's not easy. Once you get in to a routine it should fairly easy to stay on track.

- Gerry
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Old 17 Mar 2004, 11:24 PM   #32
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im giving up dairy or cutting back on it
maybe at night its not as bad, a little anyway
im schizophrenic and they say dairy food is bad for autism and schizophrenia

already in 4 days i feel better maybe and lost weight maybe
dairy foods are overrated and people eat too much cheese etc
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Old 17 Mar 2004, 11:25 PM   #33
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I was a fat child, but by the time I reached my mid teens I managed to lose weight by healthy eating and exercise. I managed to keep it up until my second child was born. By the time she was nine months old, I had cancer and the drugs made me put a little weight on, but not too much. Ten years past and I had cancer again and had to have more treatment, this time it left me with a bigger weight problem. Five years down the road and I find that I'm carrying an extra six stone. Two weeks ago I joined Slimmers World and have since lost four pounds. I know this progrss will be slow because of what I have to take in the way of medication for the rest of my life, but I'm not willing to go into my mid forties feeling unfit.

The main thing I have learnt is this is for me and no one else!
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Old 19 Mar 2004, 12:56 AM   #34
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Is that liposuction? Saw how it was done in a documentary on TV.. it was... horrible. All the fatty things oozing out.
I have also heard that this remove fat cells but if you do not change your eating habits, the fat you consume still has to go somewhere. I have heard that some men have undergone this procedure and because their eating habits stayed the same, the fat settled in their pectoral region.

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Expend more calories than you consume.
Nothing else works.

So: Eat less. Exercise more.

Theory is simple. Execution--well, that's another matter entirely.
This is very true -- I heard a great truism about giving other people advice, "Most people already know what they should do. The question is: what prevents them from doing it."
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Old 19 Mar 2004, 01:27 AM   #35
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Old 24 Nov 2008, 07:29 PM   #36
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The Hacker's Diet - How to lose weight and hair through stress and poor nutrition

That's the title of a book by John Walker, available online, where he describes an engineer's approach to losing weight and then not gaining it back. An approach some of the regular participant in these forums might appreciate.

He describes the problem of controlling weight from a engineer's point of view, a solution to the problem, provides computer based tools for implementing what he is suggesting, and advice on how to devise a long term plan for using the tools (that part is the businessman's view: having a business plan).

Does it work? I've been using it since July 1st, and a bit more than 15 Kg (about 35 pounds). I haven't been fully using his system. I haven't been planning my meals. Just eating less (following advice on what to eat to make it easier to eat less). And I cannot of course testify on the part of keeping the result of the diet for life, I still have about 10Kg to go before getting to that stage) but it doesn't seem to require any more effort than losing weight as long as I continue doing what I'm doing.

The book is quite long for a book that just says something like "there's no secret: it's just the difference between the amount of calories you put in and the amount of calories you burn", but it provides a lot of insight into what's involved that helps a lot, like realizing that daily and sometimes weekly fluctuations in weight are quite meaningless, or in understanding how your body responds to a deficit in calories (manufactures suger from fat, and after a while you don't feel hungry despite eating 1000 calories less than what your body needs), or understanding that your body is different from everybody else's so the only way for you to really decide what you burn is to measure it by keeping a record of your weight.

There's also an exercise plan there based on simplifying the old Canadian Air Force exercise plan, and he emphasizes the fact that exercising is not going to be a significant element in losing weight. There are other good reasons to stay in shape, like living a longer and healthier life, and like making it easier to keep your diet.

This is an old thread and I could have started a new one, but I couldn't resist reviving it, partly hoping to bring back some of the participants that I really miss
Searching for "diet" brought up one other thread started by SusanUKF in 2004 with lots of tips, but I thought "Eating more healthy" is less compoatible with " losing weight and hair through stress and poor nutrition"!
Anyway I hope some of you might find it useful.
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Old 25 Nov 2008, 12:59 AM   #37
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It is always fun to revisit these old threads. Thanks Hadaso.

The last two years have not been kind to me with two workplace injuries and an off the job injury. Whilst none were serious all were debilitating and took a long time to get over. It is really tough when you get older and you never do recover fully from hurting yourself. I've only, just, been able to revisit any kind of exercise program.

Due to other problems I've had to change eating habits. Its all good though.

Its not a lot of fun growing old.
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Old 25 Nov 2008, 02:24 AM   #38
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My method of keeping my weight to "low" is to eat less, walk more.
Walking is one of the best, I lost a good chunk of weight by just doing two things.

1) Stopped eating fast food
2) Walking

I've now hit a plateau and will need to actually start dieting, but seriously I dropped a good 25-30 lbs by just doing the above. I make my living behind a keyboard so I exploded in weight gain.

Good luck, don't know your age but after 30 and especially after 40 weight gain is one of the hazards
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Old 25 Nov 2008, 04:52 AM   #39
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I'm surprised I have not been active in the thread using my old user names.
I know that I have talked about loosing weight in a forum but fail to remember which one.

I did a good try some years ago. Maybe 2 or three years ago.

I started at maybe 97KG and managed to get down to 82 or similar
which is about 20 to 22 BMI or so me being 1950 mm

But then I lost the habit and started eating too much again.
So now I am back at 97 to 98.

And have been there for a while. I guess I have given up.
Food for me is a kind of drug to compensate for loneliness.

Generally it is true that it is a simple relation between calorie intake
and loosing weight but not always.

I could go down from maybe 2500 calorie to 1800 intake of food per day and keep at 1800 a day for weeks and not loose an ounce. The body compensate by being more effective at using the food I ate. But if I got down to maybe 1300 for some weeks it kind if have too little to take from so it failed to compensate and I did loose weight but it was extremely hard to stand on such low fuel and very hard to get enough of needed nutrition on so low calorie.

And when I started to eat more again then the body gained weight real quick and all was lost.

So one need to be very slow and consistent so the body get used to that new situation and it become the real habit and not a temporary "loosing weight thing".

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Old 25 Nov 2008, 05:55 AM   #40
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It is always fun to revisit these old threads. Thanks Hadaso.
Yes it surely is

Nice thread here....
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Old 28 Nov 2008, 11:11 AM   #41
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slef discipline and self control would be a good attirbute.
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Old 28 Nov 2008, 01:14 PM   #42
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I'm surprised I have not been active in the thread using my old user names.
I know that I have talked about loosing weight in a forum but fail to remember which one.

I did a good try some years ago. Maybe 2 or three years ago.

I started at maybe 97KG and managed to get down to 82 or similar
which is about 20 to 22 BMI or so me being 1950 mm

But then I lost the habit and started eating too much again.
So now I am back at 97 to 98.

And have been there for a while. I guess I have given up.
Food for me is a kind of drug to compensate for loneliness.

Generally it is true that it is a simple relation between calorie intake
and loosing weight but not always.

I could go down from maybe 2500 calorie to 1800 intake of food per day and keep at 1800 a day for weeks and not loose an ounce. The body compensate by being more effective at using the food I ate. But if I got down to maybe 1300 for some weeks it kind if have too little to take from so it failed to compensate and I did loose weight but it was extremely hard to stand on such low fuel and very hard to get enough of needed nutrition on so low calorie.

And when I started to eat more again then the body gained weight real quick and all was lost.

So one need to be very slow and consistent so the body get used to that new situation and it become the real habit and not a temporary "loosing weight thing".
You must add exercise and good food... not less of bad food. Depending on your body, eating less may send the body into starving mode... then you lose muscle.

Joining a gym would help you... and you would not feel so lonely.
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Old 28 Nov 2008, 11:57 PM   #43
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Self discipline and self control would be a good attribute.
It sure would be! As you might guess I have neither of them.
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Old 29 Nov 2008, 08:10 PM   #44
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Jennifer this is The Off-Topic Lounge at emaildiscussions.com
and we write about email and the off topic as I see it is for light
talk between us who are interested in emails and this being your
very first post and you start directly with a link to such a site

With all due respect to me it looks like a spam.

But Moderators has to decide on such. It would be an entire-ally different
matter if you had been a long time member telling it. But your first time post
that look not ok to me. but I am a stingy one on such.
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Old 1 Dec 2008, 09:39 AM   #45
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Apparantly the staff agreed

I did not see it but i am glad of that!! (I dislike spammers)

Losing Weight though.. I dont dislike that at all
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