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Old 14th January 2005, 12:23 PM   #1
robmueller
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Dynamic address book details

If you:

1. Go to http://www.fastmail.fm/beta/
2. Login to your account
3. IMPORTANT. Hit CTRL-F5 to force a reload
4. Go to the address book
5. Click on a [+] link to view the details of an address

You should find that it's now:
1. Significantly faster the first time
2. Instant to hide/expand again on the same page
3. Doesn't cause the screen to jump around

This is done through some JS magic, which should come in handy for other things in the future as well.

I've tested this and it works on IE6, FF1.0, Opera 8beta. It should work on Safari 1.2, but I haven't tested so reports welcome.

On browsers that don't support this particular JS magic, it'll all still work by falling back to the good old server rountrip.

Please test and report back how it goes. If you have problems, please report your browser, OS, etc.

Rob

PS. A similar thing occurs for the folder list on the mailbox screen as well. Try a folder with a lot of messages then expand/collapse some folder trees, it should be a lot faster than an entire page reload.
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Old 14th January 2005, 12:34 PM   #2
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I love the ability to display up to 500 names on one page...
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Old 14th January 2005, 02:36 PM   #3
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Cool. Is this some Gmail-inspired stuff? Might we see more Gmail-inspired, JavaScript-XML-backend-type stuff in the future?
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Old 14th January 2005, 03:02 PM   #4
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Verified FF1

Very snappy and delicious in FireFox 1.0 (WinXP). Great job.

PS: Why do you guys outsource your messageboard service?
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Old 14th January 2005, 03:59 PM   #5
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Whoops

You already knew that one

How bout this:

WinIE5.01: No change between Beta and current
WinIE5.5: Ditto
Konquerer: Gets stuck on "Loading..."; doesn't show the details at all
Camino: Works beautifully
MacIE5.2: Goes really slowly, and the whole viewport goes blank while it loads
Safari 1.2: Works as expected, except it gives a javascript error window that says: "There was a problem retrieving the data. Please try refreshing the page. The error was: undefined." Turning on the javascript exception logging yields:

Code:
/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari: 
*** Warning: ATSUSetFontFallbacks has been deprecated.
  Use ATSUFontFallbacks objects instead. ***
kernel: hotfiles_evict: err  1celocating file
I know diddly about Macs and even less diddly about javascript, but I hope that helps a little more than "FF works"
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Old 14th January 2005, 06:42 PM   #6
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IE3 for Win3.1 (under XP) OK
Opera 7.54 XP OK
Mozilla 1.7 OK
IE4.01 throws up the following two errors when opening the Address book screen and whenever it reloads after clicking a +/-:

Quote:
Internet Explorer Script Error
! An error has occurred in the script on this page.
Line: 426
Char: 5
Error: Syntax error
Code: 0
Do you want to continue running scripts on this page Y/N

Internet Explorer Script Error
! An error has occurred in the script on this page.
Line: 15
Char: 5
Error: Object expected
Code: 0
Do you want to continue running scripts on this page Y/N
I clicked Yes to both.
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Old 14th January 2005, 08:29 PM   #7
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It works flawlessley for me (XP Pro, Firefox 1.0).

Thanks, Rob. That make the address book pretty much perfect for me, now.
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Old 14th January 2005, 08:59 PM   #8
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I love "JS Magic"!

We should have it everywhere!

One question though... for the rare non-JS capable browser, does FM default back to a non-JS mode?

Thanks for making Fastmail even faster! I look forward to the JS snipits all over the interface!

Edit: oh yeah, win XP pro SP2 firefox 1.0

Last edited by alka : 15th January 2005 at 09:54 PM.
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Old 14th January 2005, 09:09 PM   #9
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Originally posted by alka
I love "JS Magic"!

We should have it everywhere!

One question though... for the rare non-JS capable browser, does FM default back to a non-JS mode?

Thanks for making Fastmail even faster! I look forward to the JS snipits all over the interface!
It works in Opera with JS turned off.
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Old 14th January 2005, 09:44 PM   #10
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Re: Verified FF1

Quote:
Originally posted by fuxupyo
PS: Why do you guys outsource your messageboard service?
To be truely unbiased and objective I presume. Also it means the message board doesn't go down when FM's servers do so we have somewhere to come and moan!
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Old 15th January 2005, 12:52 AM   #11
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Re: Re: Verified FF1

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Originally posted by specialK
To be truely unbiased and objective I presume.
Exactly correct. It should be noted that while Jeremy is a "moderator", his moderation privilages do not apply to the FM forums, and that is so by his own request.
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Old 15th January 2005, 01:14 AM   #12
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This is awesome on XP and Firefox 1.0 for me. Thank you Fastmail team. Amazing!

Matthew
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Old 15th January 2005, 02:44 AM   #13
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It's perfect in Windows XP and IE6 - Thanks !!

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Old 15th January 2005, 04:01 AM   #14
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Re: Whoops

Ok, some of these I expect, some are strange:

WinIE5: Expect this, should only be enabled for IE6+
Konq: That's strange, it shouldn't even try and display the "Loading...". Oh, I think I know why. Can you try again now.
MacIE: It should reload the whole page, just like WinIE5. Is it particularly more slow?
Safari: That's a strange error. We generate the dialog box, but the fact the message text is empty is very odd. And the error in the logging sounds more like an internal error than one generated by anything we did. *sigh*

I'll see if I can reproduce this.

Rob

Quote:
Originally posted by fuxupyo
WinIE5.01: No change between Beta and current
WinIE5.5: Ditto
Konquerer: Gets stuck on "Loading..."; doesn't show the details at all
Camino: Works beautifully
MacIE5.2: Goes really slowly, and the whole viewport goes blank while it loads
Safari 1.2: Works as expected, except it gives a javascript error window that says: "There was a problem retrieving the data. Please try refreshing the page. The error was: undefined." Turning on the javascript exception logging yields:

Code:
/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari: 
*** Warning: ATSUSetFontFallbacks has been deprecated.
  Use ATSUFontFallbacks objects instead. ***
kernel: hotfiles_evict: err  1celocating file
I know diddly about Macs and even less diddly about javascript, but I hope that helps a little more than "FF works" [/b]
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Old 15th January 2005, 04:07 AM   #15
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That's strange, that it's giving errors in IE4, I'm not even sure what JS code it's trying to execute.

Using IE4.01, can you please login and go to the address book page, click "Yes" through the 2 errors. Then save the page as an HTML file on your local machine, and send it to me at robm AT fastmail DOT fm. I'll see if there's something obvious going on...

Rob

Quote:
Originally posted by davidbstanley
IE3 for Win3.1 (under XP) OK
IE4.01 throws up the following two errors when opening the Address book screen and whenever it reloads after clicking a +/-:
I clicked Yes to both.
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