Secure access to FTP server

FromNL · 9 Jan 2005, 06:06 PM

Hi,

I know that SSL isn't announced officially yet, so maybe I should wait for the details etc. ..... but can someone tell me if it's possible to access the FTP server over a secure connection (f.e. SSL)?.

I think it's useless to have a secure access to the mail server if you have to use an insecure connection for the FTP server. If a secure connection to the FTP server will not be possible then maybe a solution would be if I could use an other username/password combination strictly for the FTP server.

And of course I hope that the backup procedure of Runbox will also cover the FTP files soon; only then my files will be 99,9% safe.

Thanks.

BKB · 10 Jan 2005, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FromNL
Hi,

I know that SSL isn't announced officially yet, so maybe I should wait for the details etc. ..... but can someone tell me if it's possible to access the FTP server over a secure connection (f.e. SSL)?.

I think it's useless to have a secure access to the mail server if you have to use an insecure connection for the FTP server. If a secure connection to the FTP server will not be possible then maybe a solution would be if I could use an other username/password combination strictly for the FTP server.

Took the words right out of my mouth. In the absense of a bookmark manager I've started using Bookmark Synchronizer for FireFox. It automatically syncs my bookmarks via FTP everytime I open my browser - very slick. However, this means sending my Runbox username/password over the network (sometimes public, wireless networks), in plain-text, which I'm not happy about. I was thinking about using my Fasmail Member account for this purpose, but Fastmail doesn't support FTP access or WebDAV (planned). So secure FTP access, or a Files specific username/password would be very useful.

Thanks.

edafe · 28 Jan 2005, 05:39 PM

Would it not be relatively straightforward to run an SSH server to give us a secure means of accessing our files?

Regards,
Edafe

Liz · 28 Jan 2005, 07:46 PM

When you log in to the webmail using SSL, the whole session is encrypted, including files. The original poster was talking about FTP I believe, which is indeed not encrypted (apparently, it's a rather gnarly protocol in that regard).

Liz

edafe · 29 Jan 2005, 02:03 AM

Liz,

What is needed is a secure way to access files that does not depend on a web browser.
SSH provides just that.

Regards,
Edafe

P.S: SSH does not rely on SSL.

jongrove · 22 Mar 2005, 05:56 PM

Any news regarding S-FTP or SSH access to filestorage on runbox? I'm a potential new user, but I'm not happy about the in-secure way of accessing files on the ftp.

Kind regards Jon Hermansen, Denmark

carverrn · 22 Mar 2005, 08:52 PM

I think Secure FTP and SSH is not something that Runbox plans on adding any time soon, if at all. So don't use that as a basis for making your decisions. You should never make a choice based on "future features" anyways. If Runbox doesn't meet your needs "as is" then you should look at other services.

Regards,
Rich

Zedd · 22 Apr 2006, 09:15 PM

Implementing SSL on the FTP server should be very very simple to do.

I don't understand why Runbox does not have this, I don't like having to send my documents in plain text at all when I use bakup and sync programs that access over FTP.

Fortunally my program can encrypt the files itself before sending but then I can't access my files without the same program on the computer, so if I would need to access my documents from say a internet cafe I am screwed...

**Shelded** · 24 Apr 2006, 01:57 PM

Do internet-cafe computers allow you to download and execute applications? If so, a self-extracting ZIP application could be the way to get something to yourself if you stored the EXE on your file storage. Just an idea.

Zedd · 1 May 2006, 10:41 PM

Obviously I would not have install previleges on the computer in question... most internet-cafés dont have this.

9 Jan 2005, 06:06 PM	#1
FromNL Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 56	Secure access to FTP server Hi, I know that SSL isn't announced officially yet, so maybe I should wait for the details etc. ..... but can someone tell me if it's possible to access the FTP server over a secure connection (f.e. SSL)?. I think it's useless to have a secure access to the mail server if you have to use an insecure connection for the FTP server. If a secure connection to the FTP server will not be possible then maybe a solution would be if I could use an other username/password combination strictly for the FTP server. And of course I hope that the backup procedure of Runbox will also cover the FTP files soon; only then my files will be 99,9% safe. Thanks.

29 Jan 2005, 02:03 AM	#5
edafe Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 68	Liz, What is needed is a secure way to access files that does not depend on a web browser. SSH provides just that. Regards, Edafe P.S: SSH does not rely on SSL. Last edited by edafe : 29 Jan 2005 at 02:11 AM.

22 Mar 2005, 05:56 PM	#6
jongrove Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 14	Any news regarding S-FTP or SSH access to filestorage on runbox? I'm a potential new user, but I'm not happy about the in-secure way of accessing files on the ftp. Kind regards Jon Hermansen, Denmark Last edited by jongrove : 22 Mar 2005 at 10:13 PM.

28 Jan 2005, 05:39 PM	#3
edafe Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 68	Would it not be relatively straightforward to run an SSH server to give us a secure means of accessing our files? Regards, Edafe

28 Jan 2005, 07:46 PM	#4
Liz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 4,652 Representative of: Runbox.com	When you log in to the webmail using SSL, the whole session is encrypted, including files. The original poster was talking about FTP I believe, which is indeed not encrypted (apparently, it's a rather gnarly protocol in that regard). Liz

22 Mar 2005, 08:52 PM	#7
carverrn Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,606 Representative of: Runbox.com	I think Secure FTP and SSH is not something that Runbox plans on adding any time soon, if at all. So don't use that as a basis for making your decisions. You should never make a choice based on "future features" anyways. If Runbox doesn't meet your needs "as is" then you should look at other services. Regards, Rich

22 Apr 2006, 09:15 PM	#8
Zedd Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 36	Implementing SSL on the FTP server should be very very simple to do. I don't understand why Runbox does not have this, I don't like having to send my documents in plain text at all when I use bakup and sync programs that access over FTP. Fortunally my program can encrypt the files itself before sending but then I can't access my files without the same program on the computer, so if I would need to access my documents from say a internet cafe I am screwed...

24 Apr 2006, 01:57 PM	#9
Shelded Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USA Northwest Posts: 3,849	Do internet-cafe computers allow you to download and execute applications? If so, a self-extracting ZIP application could be the way to get something to yourself if you stored the EXE on your file storage. Just an idea.

1 May 2006, 10:41 PM	#10
Zedd Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 36	Obviously I would not have install previleges on the computer in question... most internet-cafés dont have this.