Fastmail file storage...

rjlov · 3rd December 2003, 12:39 PM

is now available for beta testing at www.fastmail.fm/beta You should have a Files link at the top of the screen, or you can go there via the Options screen.

Feel free to give it a try, and let me know of any suggestions / bugs via support at rjlov dot fastmail dot fm.

There are no faq entries for this yet, so I'll just point a few things out to you:

The folders in your file storage can be viewed directly on the web. If your user name is sampleusername, you can point your web browser at:
sampleusername.fastmail.fm for your "public" folder
private.sampleusername.fastmail.fm for your "private" folder
foldername.sampleusername.fastmail.fm for your other top-level folders.

"public" requires no username and password.
"private" requires your fastmail username and password.
Other folders can be public, private, or you can specify a password.

Important: To turn on web access under your username, got to Options -> Account Preferences and select "Web Access to File Storage". Otherwise it will seem like your username doesn't exist. If you want to enable access under foldername.samplealiasname.sampledomain then you need to delete your alias, and add it back again, with the web access option enabled. (We'll fix this useability problem.)

I think that's all.

Have fun!

Richard.

Jacobl · 3rd December 2003, 12:49 PM

Just one word: SWEET!!

One question: What amount of space is available?

rjlov · 3rd December 2003, 12:56 PM

Ah yes, it's 250k for guest and member, 10m for full and 150m for enhanced. This quota is separate from your mail quota. Likewise there are bandwidth restrictions, which are also separate from your mail bandwidth. They are 10m/month, 250m/month and 750/month respectively.

One of the things Rob suggested today was to build a little usage meter like the one on the mailbox screen.

Richard.

robmueller · 3rd December 2003, 12:56 PM

At the moment:

Guest: 250k
Member: 250k
Full: 10M
Enhanced: 150M

This may or may not change.

Yes, a quota bar like on the mailbox screen is on the list of enhancements to come

[edit: ... missed by that much... ]

Rob

s a · 3rd December 2003, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rjlov
is now available for beta testing at www.fastmail.fm/beta You should have a Files link at the top of the screen, or you can go there via the Options screen.
Have fun!

Richard.

Richard, Great Job!. It works really well and i love the way it has been incorporated into the various FM screens.

I am unable to access http://myusername.fastmail.fm, although i enabled public access and uploaded a test file. Is this supposed to work now or only after the final release?

you've done a superb job again (and really quick, following the new spam system), thanks

schmoe · 3rd December 2003, 01:04 PM

Let me ask the obvious question: why have separate (and lower) quota for file storage. Why not have a user's current quota be applied for all storage: file storage + mail storage.

Jacobl · 3rd December 2003, 01:06 PM

I've had the same problem, with a few others:

Can't access or delete a folder if you've created it under public for example.

If you create a folder under public and then select it you go directly to the root again.

I emailed these issues into Richard

It does look like it is very well integrated into the UI. I'm all excited about this now!

aha · 3rd December 2003, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s a
you've done a superb job again (and really quick, following the new spam system), thanks

Maybe we can have a little Richard Fan Club here ... :-) Although I haven't checked out the Files feature yet, I am terribly impressed with the (anti-)spam system.

robmueller · 3rd December 2003, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s a
I am unable to access http://myusername.fastmail.fm, although i enabled public access and uploaded a test file. Is this supposed to work now or only after the final release?

I think you have to enable it via the 'Access Control' button as well.

Rob

Jacobl · 3rd December 2003, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aha
Maybe we can have a little Richard Fan Club here ... :-)

Just make sure it's a Richard fan club not a "Little Richard" fan club

Sorry, couldn't resist...

s a · 3rd December 2003, 01:09 PM

i have an off-topic question.....i know this is the beta server but i noticed that the folder tree is awfully wide....is there a reason for this?

s a · 3rd December 2003, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robmueller
I think you have to enable it via the 'Access Control' button as well.

Rob

Rob, i enabled this feature, in both the "account preferences" screen and under the "web access" option under files.

robmueller · 3rd December 2003, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by schmoe
Let me ask the obvious question: why have separate (and lower) quota for file storage. Why not have a user's current quota be applied for all storage: file storage + mail storage.

Mostly because we use a separate IMAP server which maintains it's own internal quota's, so it's almost impossible to share them with anything external to the IMAP server.

There was a thought at some stage of storing files as attachments in emails in the IMAP server in a separate set of folders. You get the shared quota, but otherwise it's a pain. There's the performance hit of having to encode/decode the email/attachment on each access, and each file uses 33% more space because of the encoding process.

So basically we went with a separate quota system.

Rob

robmueller · 3rd December 2003, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s a
Rob, i enabled this feature, in both the "account preferences" screen and under the "web access" option under files.

Is your username @fastmail.fm? If not, you have to use http://username.domain.tld as appropriate.

If it still doesn't work, can you PM me your username, I'll have a look.

Rob

oysterquartz · 3rd December 2003, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by schmoe
Let me ask the obvious question: why have separate (and lower) quota for file storage. Why not have a user's current quota be applied for all storage: file storage + mail storage.

Yes, this makes no sense. I'm sure people who purchased extra storage would have appreciated it being allocated according to their desires.

This shouldn't be a problem, as Mailsnare (for example) allows you to allocate storage between email and files in any proportion that you choose.

BTW, did I read correctly? A whopping 250 kb for Guest and Member

3rd December 2003, 12:39 PM	#1
rjlov Essential Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 282 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	Fastmail file storage... is now available for beta testing at www.fastmail.fm/beta You should have a Files link at the top of the screen, or you can go there via the Options screen. Feel free to give it a try, and let me know of any suggestions / bugs via support at rjlov dot fastmail dot fm. There are no faq entries for this yet, so I'll just point a few things out to you: The folders in your file storage can be viewed directly on the web. If your user name is sampleusername, you can point your web browser at: sampleusername.fastmail.fm for your "public" folder private.sampleusername.fastmail.fm for your "private" folder foldername.sampleusername.fastmail.fm for your other top-level folders. "public" requires no username and password. "private" requires your fastmail username and password. Other folders can be public, private, or you can specify a password. Important: To turn on web access under your username, got to Options -> Account Preferences and select "Web Access to File Storage". Otherwise it will seem like your username doesn't exist. If you want to enable access under foldername.samplealiasname.sampledomain then you need to delete your alias, and add it back again, with the web access option enabled. (We'll fix this useability problem.) I think that's all. Have fun! Richard.

3rd December 2003, 01:04 PM	#6
schmoe Essential Contributor Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 372	separate storage quota? Let me ask the obvious question: why have separate (and lower) quota for file storage. Why not have a user's current quota be applied for all storage: file storage + mail storage.

3rd December 2003, 12:49 PM	#2
Jacobl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 191	Just one word: SWEET!! One question: What amount of space is available?

3rd December 2003, 12:56 PM	#3
rjlov Essential Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 282 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	Ah yes, it's 250k for guest and member, 10m for full and 150m for enhanced. This quota is separate from your mail quota. Likewise there are bandwidth restrictions, which are also separate from your mail bandwidth. They are 10m/month, 250m/month and 750/month respectively. One of the things Rob suggested today was to build a little usage meter like the one on the mailbox screen. Richard.

3rd December 2003, 12:56 PM	#4
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,098 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	At the moment: Guest: 250k Member: 250k Full: 10M Enhanced: 150M This may or may not change. Yes, a quota bar like on the mailbox screen is on the list of enhancements to come [edit: ... missed by that much... ] Rob

3rd December 2003, 01:06 PM	#7
Jacobl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 191	I've had the same problem, with a few others: Can't access or delete a folder if you've created it under public for example. If you create a folder under public and then select it you go directly to the root again. I emailed these issues into Richard It does look like it is very well integrated into the UI. I'm all excited about this now!

3rd December 2003, 01:09 PM	#11
s a Master of the @ Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,910	i have an off-topic question.....i know this is the beta server but i noticed that the folder tree is awfully wide....is there a reason for this?