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glass 25 Jul 2016 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflorack (Post 595387)
I'm guessing that most of us use our own computers to access email 98% of the time. In the off-nominal case where you don't, painlessly uncheck the box...

Uncheck the box, every single time you login.

As opposed to checking the box just once.

The first time someone someone logs in, it would take about the same amount of effort to read the prompt, understand what it says, realise its pre-checked, and decide that is what they want as it would to check it.

I don't opt not to remember logins because I don't trust the computer, I do it because CVE-2015-0816 was a thing that happened and could have been used to steal the cookies/sessions file from the browser.

langreisboete 25 Jul 2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflorack (Post 595395)
I didn't use the old alternative logons, but if you created an App Password under the new system, you'll need to enter that in.

Incorrect. An app password cannot be used to log in on the web or the FastMail app.
https://www.fastmail.com/help/clients/apppassword.html

rharha 25 Jul 2016 09:33 PM

Does the account recovery at https://www.fastmail.com/help/account/recovery.html work for you? It says my account doesn't exist.

lauricat 25 Jul 2016 09:48 PM

New server names?
 
G'day

Still digesting all this...

But, regarding the new server names ie. pop.fastmail.com (POP); Are the old server names' mail.messagingengine.com' eventually going to be replaced with the new standard names?

Or are they to be kept?

Thanks

~L.
:)

JamesHenderson 25 Jul 2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lauricat (Post 595401)
G'day

Still digesting all this...

But, regarding the new server names ie. pop.fastmail.com (POP); Are the old server names' mail.messagingengine.com' eventually going to be replaced with the new standard names?

Or are they to be kept?

Thanks

~L.
:)

They will eventually be replaced, but not exactly sure on timing. The only date I have read so far is 31-Aug for the rest of the alternative logins to stop working.

CyberDyne 25 Jul 2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rharha (Post 595400)
../..It says my account doesn't exist.

Same here.

JamesHenderson 25 Jul 2016 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDyne (Post 595403)
Same here.

and here. If this is the automated recover page,l then it is not working yet - i think I read here that it is best to raise a support ticket at the moment.

sflorack 25 Jul 2016 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langreisboete (Post 595399)
Incorrect. An app password cannot be used to log in on the web or the FastMail app.
https://www.fastmail.com/help/clients/apppassword.html

You're right. I was thinking of the Android app that I use (K9); not the FM one.

sflorack 25 Jul 2016 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glass (Post 595398)
Uncheck the box, every single time you login.

As opposed to checking the box just once.

Again.. most people don't need to uncheck the box. To me, it seems that FM took this approach because it satisfies the needs of most of the users in most situations. Apparently, you have a unique situation where all of your emailing happens from computers you don't trust.

ChinaLamb 25 Jul 2016 10:41 PM

The fastmail.com links only work for 2 factor authenticated accounts, which are using specific application specific passwords from what I understand.

I set 2FA, set up specific app passwords and switched to imap.fastmail.com and everything
works.


Saw a post about only using username -- not username@fastmail.com

This is INCORRECT -- Especially for people who use a different login domain other than fastmail.com

You must still use username@your_chosen_fastmail_doman.tld

/cl

CyberDyne 25 Jul 2016 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflorack (Post 595410)
Again.. most people don't need to uncheck the box. To me, it seems that FM took this approach because it satisfies the needs of most of the users in most situations. Apparently, you have a unique situation where all of your emailing happens from computers you don't trust.

Agreed. I trust my computers and phone as I know only I have access to them. The current system works well for my needs.

JamesHenderson 25 Jul 2016 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinaLamb (Post 595411)

Saw a post about only using username -- not username@fastmail.com

This is INCORRECT -- Especially for people who use a different login domain other than fastmail.com

You must still use username@your_chosen_fastmail_doman.tld

/cl

yes, that was me - sorry.

For some reason I was unable to log in with the @fastmail.com but was able to without it. It was just an unfortunate coincidence but for a while I thought the functionality had changed - the problem was actually something else (still unknown) although it is working now. I thought I had updated my post accordingly and will check it again now.

J.

langreisboete 25 Jul 2016 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflorack (Post 595410)
Again.. most people don't need to uncheck the box. To me, it seems that FM took this approach because it satisfies the needs of most of the users in most situations. Apparently, you have a unique situation where all of your emailing happens from computers you don't trust.

I have to agree with glass.

The current situation is:
You have 5 computers you trust, you login without checking. You never have to recheck them again (except see below).

You go to the public computer three times a week, you have to uncheck them every single time. When you forget, you first have to notice it and second, you have te delete it from trusted computers. Except, you can only do that from that specific computer, because in the settings page it says "this computer is trusted, reset here" OR "reset all computers". You cannot reset another single computer from another computer. If you reset all computers, you have to trust them all over again, until you make the mistake for a second time. Additional, if you do not notice it, you cannot notice it at all because there is no overview of trusted computers.

The opposite situation would be:
You have 5 computers you trust, you have to check the box once per computer.

You go to the public computer three times a week, no futher actouns required.

That's it.

Why would you prefer the current situation above the opposite one?

ChinaLamb 25 Jul 2016 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langreisboete (Post 595415)
I have to agree with glass.

The current situation is:
You have 5 computers you trust, you login without checking. You never have to recheck them again (except see below).

You go to the public computer three times a week, you have to uncheck them every single time. When you forget, you first have to notice it and second, you have te delete it from trusted computers. Except, you can only do that from that specific computer, because in the settings page it says "this computer is trusted, reset here" OR "reset all computers". You cannot reset another single computer from another computer. If you reset all computers, you have to trust them all over again, until you make the mistake for a second time. Additional, if you do not notice it, you cannot notice it at all because there is no overview of trusted computers.

The opposite situation would be:
You have 5 computers you trust, you have to check the box once per computer.

You go to the public computer three times a week, no futher actouns required.

That's it.

Why would you prefer the current situation above the opposite one?

Agreed.

/cl

RickNY 26 Jul 2016 12:01 AM

Is this why FastCheck stopped working for me this morning? I've tried using app passwords for it, and it still doesn't work. My iOS Mail client continues to work, as well as Outlook - without making any changes.

FWIW -- my FM account is @sent.com

.... and I never received any sort of email regarding these changes.


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