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jarosch 27 Dec 2010 04:40 AM

Robust and slick dns/domain provider
 
Hi,

which dns/domain provider would you recommend if you want to use your own domain with Fastmail?

Godaddy and most other services are to big/overloaded. I am looking for a provider like Fastmail (for domain and the dns stuff, so no hosting and other option are necessary).

A simple, robust and slick service.

Cheers,

Jan-Robin

smartphoneemail 27 Dec 2010 05:33 AM

You may be able to point your DNS with your domain registrar to:

◦ns1.messagingengine.com
◦ns2.messagingengine.com

If not or you prefer a different provider, I would recommend dnsmadeeasy.com

jarosch 27 Dec 2010 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartphoneemail (Post 514601)
If not or you prefer a different provider, I would recommend dnsmadeeasy.com

My old domain provider just support MX entries. So I am looking for a new domain provider which support full editable ns records for my domain so that Fastmail can fully managed my domain.

malcontent 27 Dec 2010 07:26 AM

Take a look at Namecheap.com

http://www.namecheap.com

I've been using them to host my domain and have been very happy with their service.

smartphoneemail 27 Dec 2010 07:42 PM

Before using namecheap, have a read of: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...age+2010&meta=

If DNS uptime is important to you, use a specialist DNS provider such as dnsmadeeasy. They are much more affordable than the other DNS providers.

If you want free, I suggest dns.he.net free DNS from Hurricane Electric.

sflorack 27 Dec 2010 09:35 PM

I also would not recommend Namecheap; however, my bad experiences were more customer service oriented.

But then, I use GoDaddy, which many other users would not recommend. ;)

malcontent 27 Dec 2010 09:43 PM

The few times I've had to contact Name Cheap customer service, they responded in a timely fashion and were helpful.

Godaddy has a bad reputation for customer service and for some people bad service in general.

I would take Name Cheap over Godaddy anytime. I haven't had one problem in 4 years.

Do a Google search for Godaddy/Problems to get an idea.

jarosch 28 Dec 2010 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malcontent (Post 514627)
The few times I've had to contact Name Cheap customer service, they responded in a timely fashion and were helpful.
.

Namecheap does not support the TLD (.de) of my domain.

Any other ideas for a good domain provider?

krimlin 28 Dec 2010 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarosch (Post 514635)
Namecheap does not support the TLD (.de) of my domain.

Any other ideas for a good domain provider?

www.inwx.de

Using them without any problem since 5 years.

William9 28 Dec 2010 02:31 AM

The original post refers to a DNS/domain provider. Some of us enjoy the benefits of specialists by having different companies, specializing in each service. A domain name registrar (such as name.com, namecheap.com, dotster, etc,) and a DNS services provider (such as EasyDNS, DNS Made Easy or ZoneEdit, etc.).

qwertz123456 28 Dec 2010 07:58 AM

I second namecheap!

placebo 28 Dec 2010 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflorack (Post 514625)
I also would not recommend Namecheap; however, my bad experiences were more customer service oriented.

But then, I use GoDaddy, which many other users would not recommend. ;)

I just don't like GoDaddy because its website is so annoying, always trying to sell you some service or add-on.

That said, I alternate between GoDaddy and NameCheap because it's usually cheaper to transfer a domain and get another year than it is to stay with one company and renew it.

sflorack 28 Dec 2010 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by placebo (Post 514663)
I just don't like GoDaddy because its website is so annoying, always trying to sell you some service or add-on.

That's true.. but you only need to visit the site once a year (or less if you auto-renew or sign-up for multiple years), and if it keeps their prices down, I'm all for it. I pay $19/year for my .CC domain while Namecheap charges $28/year.

TheJapanese 29 Apr 2017 01:40 PM

I'm using fastmail with INWX - but I don't know exactly why I'm struggling with DNS setup.


Option 1:
First I thought, that I use the Option to host my DNS with fastmail, and INWX is only the registrar. ("Configuring your domain with NS/MX").

But that doesn't work.

Option 2:
I have to write CNAME and TXT records inside the INWX Interface.
"Configuring your domain with MX only"


Why can't I choose Option 1? Did I choose the proper way?

And are these settings ok?
http://imgur.com/a/Z68Fm

EDIT:
ns1.messagingengine.com / ns2.messagingengine.com are the external Nameservers I setup with inwx

Terry 29 Apr 2017 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJapanese (Post 601495)

EDIT:
ns1.messagingengine.com / ns2.messagingengine.com are the external Nameservers I setup with inwx

Should that now be ns1.fastmail.com ?

FredOnline 29 Apr 2017 02:17 PM

Looking at:

https://www.fastmail.com/help/receiv...etup-nsmx.html

It says:

Log in to the control panel supplied by your domain registrar.
Then look for where you can change the "name servers" for your domain. You want to make sure there are only two values, and that the two values are:

ns1.messagingengine.com
ns2.messagingengine.com

But looking at your screencap those ns records aren't present.

Delete all other records shown there and insert the 2 records required.

TTL: Just looking at the screencap, the ns records show TTL of 86400 - if you set your Fastmail ns records also to 86400 that means 24 hours propagation.

Terry 29 Apr 2017 02:32 PM

Yea I though they had changed it to fastmail.com a few weeks ago....but the old ns1.messagingengine.com will still work for a while, but I must have it wrong.

Some DNS providers require that you put a . on the end of the MX server names (e.g. in1-smtp.messagingengine.com. rather than in1-smtp.messagingengine.com). Try the version without a . first, and if the DNS provider appends anything, try the version with the . appended.

jeffpan 29 Apr 2017 03:52 PM

I was a DNS player. the premium list I suggested,
  • easyDNS
  • DNSimple
  • DNSMadeEasy
  • NS1

If you want free, then,
  • Cloudns.net
  • Namecheap
  • Rackspace
  • Cloudflare

Terry 29 Apr 2017 05:06 PM

ZoneEdit....with them you can make lots of changes.

BritTim 29 Apr 2017 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry (Post 601502)
ZoneEdit....with them you can make lots of changes.

Long ago, before they were acquired, I used to be very positive about ZoneEdit,. Through inertia I even still have a couple of domains parked there. In honesty, though, I can no longer endorse them. The options suggested by jeffpan are better.

Terry 29 Apr 2017 07:57 PM

easyDNS is ZoneEdit

n5bb 30 Apr 2017 06:51 AM

FastMail DNS hosting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry (Post 601496)
Should that now be ns1.fastmail.com ?

Don't confuse the client reading/submission server addresses, the nameserver address (pointing the domain to FastMail hosted DNS records), and the MX server address used to receive email. The security changes which started in late July 2016 changed the addresses used by clients to xxx.fastmail.com:
https://www.fastmail.com/help/accoun...tml?#newserver
The NS and incoming MX addresses still point to xxx.messagingengine.com.

An email client should use the xxx.fastmail.com addresses specified in Help. These used to be xxx.messagingengine.com, but the old addresses are deprecated and you will get warning messages now (or in the near future) if you still use xxx.messagingengine.com with an email client.
https://www.fastmail.com/help/techni...sandports.html

I recommend letting FastMail host your DNS records, using the instructions given in the post by FredOnline. I find this easy to use and I don't need to use my registar's confusing and ancient zone control panel. FastMail automatically creates important DNS entries (any of which you can disable) and you can add you own additional entries. Standard entries automatically generated by FastMail for your domain include:
  • MX records enabling incoming mail at your domain and subdomains of that domain
  • A records enabling websites at your domain and subdomains of that domain
  • DKIM support (allows recipient systems to know that messages you send are received without any changes)
  • SPF support, which allows you to control which servers are authorized to send email from your domain (From address at your domain). I have disabled the default FastMail SPF record and in the custom section I add a slightly different SPF record which only allows the FastMail sending servers to be used for my domain.
  • SRV records allowing many email clients to automatically configure themselves for use with your domain.
  • SRV records allowing CalDAV and CardDAV use
See the complete standard DNS automatically created entries at:
https://www.fastmail.com/help/receiv....html?#dnslist

You can add additional DNS entries at the FastMail domain DNS settings page. I have custom SPF and DMARC settings set up there for my domain.

It's important to understand how TTL (Time To LIve) works before changing any NS or DNS entries. Often the TTL for a record is initially set to a large value such as 3600 seconds (1 hour) or 86400 seconds (1 day) at the host. This means that any changes you make to that entry (such as the Nameserver address) won't have a guaranteed effect for a full day. This delay also applies to changes you make to the TTL setting itself. So the recommended way to change NS or DNS settings is:
  • Takes notes on the existing TTL values for your NS and DNS records. This is important!
  • Set the TTL for NS and DNS settings you plan to change to a short interval, such as 10 seconds.
  • Wait for the original TTL delay you noted in the first step to expire. In other words, if the original TTL was 86400, wait a full day after you change the TTL to 10 seconds. After waiting for that old original delay, you can make changes and they will take effect quickly (in less than a minute when using a 10 second TTL).
  • Then change your NS and/or DNS settings as desired. You should see the results of any changes you make within a minute or so, and so you can quickly recover if you make a mistake or need to experiment.
  • After you have tested you changes, you should probably change the TTL values back to a larger number of second to improve performance of the DNS lookup. The default FastMail TTL is 1 hour, and I think that's a good value for long-term stable use. But remember that you will need to wait at least an hour in that case to make future changes to any DNS entry. Very short TTL values are good when making changes, but slow down lookups when many accesses are being made in an hour to access your domain in any way.
Bill

Terry 30 Apr 2017 07:24 AM

Thanks Bill, I just assumed that Fastmail would have also changed the DNS to fastmail.com but the old messagingengine.com.....my mistake.

Really its a lot to type and often can be miss spelt.

n5bb 30 Apr 2017 07:28 AM

I completely agree with you, Terry! it's always best to go directly to the specific instructions in Help before starting to change any such settings. I only posted after carefully checking the current Help directions, which are quite different than those a couple of years ago.

Bill

jhollington 3 May 2017 01:09 AM

Quote:

I recommend letting FastMail host your DNS records...
I second this recommendation wholeheartedly.

I've gone several different ways on this one over the years —*I still have about a half-dozen grandfathered "lifetime free" DNS slots at DynDNS, and use EasyDNS as my registrar, so both of those services provide DNS hosting options, but honestly, even if you have a DNS provider with a great control panel, by the time you deal with MX records, SRV records for client discovery, SPF, DMARC, and DKIM, it's just so much easier to let FastMail do the heavy lifting for you. Even if you're hosting your web services somewhere else, a few "A" and "CNAME" records are trivial to set up by comparison.

While there's a certain "all of your eggs in one basket" argument against using FastMail's DNS, registrar-level NS record changes are pretty quick these days, so even in the case of a catastrophic failure of FastMail, it doesn't take much longer to point your DNS to another provider than it would to update your MX records.

That said, I do wish FastMail supported DNSSEC, but I can live without it.


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