New features to keep your FastMail account even more secure
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I hope I will be able to use FreeOTP app with it...
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2FA via SMS to Two different cell phones
Consider someone who is frequently in two countries with a cell phone number for each one (because roaming charges are too high). How do they use 2FA with SMS under the new system?
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In all cases I know of (not that many, actually), receiving SMS messages is free while roaming.
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While I'm quite happy with the current Alternative Logins structure, I'm also looking forward to this new password system revamp. I know the FM folks have been planning and developing this new system for a while now, so great to see it's ready for launch.
@GeraldR: Maybe get a free Google Voice phone#. Incoming SMSs there you can set to forward to various destinations simultaneously. |
Google Voice can be forwarded to US numbers only
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Additional security isn't really a requirement for me. I'm perfectly happy with the current authentication process so I'm hoping that this 2FA change is optional. That's not clear to me based on what I've read so far unless I've missed it.
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Change is not always good but, on first reading, these seem like well thought out and excellent enhancements.
Will we able to use U2F to secure access to file storage? |
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U2F and app-specific passwords are great advances in FM login security.
A post comparing U2F with the standard Yubikey OTP: http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...7&postcount=24 Chrome supports U2F, Firefox does not. Sadly, Mozilla has yet to implement U2F support. Others might list other browsers that support U2F. Amazon links for U2F capable keys: Yubikey U2F only 18 USD Yubikey 4 40 USD Yubikey NEO 50 USD |
I hope this is voluntary and not mandatory. If mandatory I may have to look for another email provider and what a pain that will be. :confused:
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My reading of this is that, if you just use a single password for access to your account, the only change you will see if that the URL of the login screen changes.
For people who only use email for casual correspondence, these changes are not especially important. However, where email contains potentially confidential communications, it becomes important to keep accounts secure. 2FA, and especially U2F, are useful tools in assisting to ensure this, as are app/device specific passwords. |
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I'm currently only seeing the old "Alternative Logins" when will the Two-Factor options be available?
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You could go to the link in post #1 and read it.
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Read it before, missed that detail. /cl |
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Launching next Monday July 25. Current alternate logins terminate August 31. If you're currently using our "alternate logins" system, you will need to migrate to the new system sometime in the next month. We will be removing all old-style "alternate logins" on 31st August. Also, please note that if your alternate login has a second factor, you will now be asked for this after submitting your username and password, rather than entering it on the initial login page.https://blog.fastmail.com/2016/07/18...en-more-secure -- There'll be blog posts each day this week explaining the new login security features in detail. |
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There is an extension for Mozilla, but no native support yet. I'm told that there are Mozilla engineers interested in it, but its currently quite difficult to do securely in Mozilla due to the lack of sandboxing. I'm sure they'll get there in time. Quote:
Of course we'll continue supporting TOTP and other methods for the forseeable future. |
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...support-add-on -- You can test a U2F key here: https://demo.yubico.com/u2f |
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This is easier for Chrome to protect against because it already has its sandboxing model where as a last line of defence, Javascript can't do anything outside of its running context (usually the current tab). Mozilla doesn't have this sandboxing model, mostly for legacy reasons, so the USB supports needs to be implemented very carefully. It can't afford to be wrong as there isn't that last line of defence. The (long) dev discussion is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1065729. Back to your original question about the extension. I don't know anything about it really, and I'm not a Mozilla user, so I can't really say anything about its security characteristics. If its implemented the way that seems obvuous to me (a secondary task using libu2f-host to communicate with the U2F device) then it's probably not too bad and I would probably use it. Ultimately though you don't really have much guarantee about anything unless you're willing to go to a lot of effort. Chrome could be broken for all I know. I trust my browser because the alternative is more effort than its worth. You know your own security needs, so you'll need to make the best choice for yourself. |
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2FA via SMS to Two different cell phones
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Has anyone had notification from Fastmail of the new features in their Fastmail inbox?
I've had nothing yet. |
"If you're currently using our "alternate logins" system, you will need to migrate to the new system sometime in the next month. We will be removing all old-style "alternate logins" on 31st August."
What does this mean for the other types of alternate logins, such as OTP? |
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Why do you keep changing things, is the extra security really needed or is it just to make it harder to use the old UI
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Perhaps it's to drive another nail in the classic UI coffin.:D:D:D
' We are getting so many changes and I really don't like many of them so I am now about to try something else, but if I don't like it I have only lost $40 |
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Glad you asked the question, I wasn't aware of FreeOTP. I've installed it on my Android devices. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...hosted.freeotp |
Which Yubikey
I read the article on the new 2FA - I am looking at getting a yubikey specifically one with NFC - but I am confused about which one is appropriate. The article mentions the OLD yubikey and has a link to yubico which takes you to a page showing the NEW yubikeys
(The article also only gives a link to twitter to follow the discussion - and no mention of this forum) Anyway IŽd appreciate any assistance on this |
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If you're buying a new YubiKey, they all support both mechanisms, and we recommend using the U2F mode because its more secure. |
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password I can't remember (it's in my password manager, only accessible from my local computer) password I can remember that requires 2fa (totp on phone) password I can remember that requires an otp from a list I have printed out So now if I want to be able to login when I don't have my phone, I will have to change my password to something I can remember and disable 2FA? That doesn't sound "even more secure". |
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